Pete wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> This thread has been very interesting to me as I'm considering
> getting a computer to run Linux.
...
> But where do I buy a computer that runs Linux and what version of
> Linux (if that's the right term) I need?

Every distro has its fans, some quite passionate. There's a running gag in the Ubuntu forums that whenever someone encounters an issue that's hard to solve, the answer is "use Arch". :)

Personally I like Ubuntu, and as a developer it's important to me that I'm working with the most popular distro (an estimated one-third of Linus desktops are running Ubuntu). With its mandate of "Linux for Human Beings", it's provided a good experience for me.

Mark Weider uses Fedora, and I've enjoyed that one as well. Linux Mint is another good choice.

Whichever you choose, be sure to post all over the Internet that users of other distros or OSes are stupid fanbois who just don't get what Linux is all about! That'll help keep the myth of the Linux community alive for those who have no familiarity with it. :)


If you were in the market for a computer with Ubuntu pre-installed, these companies are good options:

<http://www.system76.com/>
<http://zareason.com>
<http://linucity.com>

While all three are very reputable vendors, the last there, LinuCity, is owned by my friend Aviv and I can personally vouch for the quality of service he provides.

For more options, Canonical maintains a list of computers from major vendors they've worked with that have undergone their certification process:
<http://www.ubuntu.com/certification>

Note that that's only a subset of computers Ubuntu is compatible with. There are only so many hours in the day, and even a billionaire like Mark Shuttleworth can't afford to certify everything it runs on.


One upside to Linux being mostly installed on computers designed for some other OS is that it expects that challenge and usually meets it pretty well. In my own experience, every machine I've installed it on has worked great out of the box. The only time I needed a special driver was for the NVideo card on my Dell Vostro, and Ubuntu identified that and prompted me to install it with one click on first boot.


> I already have a Windows laptop that I only use for testing out the
> LC apps I develop on my Mac.  I don't really want another computer.
> It seems like Apple has just about shut the door on running anything
> but OS X on their computers.  Can I install Linux on my Windows
> computer a dual boot it somehow?

And even on your Mac. Apple's OS X EULA only prevents you from legally installing it on anything other than "an Apple branded computer", but their computers are frequently used by members of the Ubuntu forum for running Linux. Boot camp is a natural fit for that sort of thing.

Because Apple tends to get specialized components, it can sometimes be trickier to get a solid install on a Mac than on popular PCs where the components are in such wide use that there are plenty of good drivers for them.

Dual-booting with Windows is a popular option, esp. among gamers because Windows still rules the roost with the games market. I've set up dual-boot systems before and it's not hard (the Ubuntu installer includes options for that), but personally I found I was booting into Windows so rarely that I ditched that partition and put Windows into a VM within Ubuntu.

In general, the sweet spot for Linux is computers between two and six years old. It can often run on newer systems, and even most older ones (Puppy Linux can run on darn near anything), but if a computer's too old it won't have the horsepower to deliver a great experience with the latest Linux distros, and if it's too new there's a chance of needing a driver that hasn't been made available yet. Even then there's almost always a way to get things to work, but for a simple first-time experience the two-to-six years guideline may be helpful for systems that haven't been certified.

Most of the popular distros allow an option to run the OS from CD or USB drive, so you can try it out on a machine without having to install anything.

If you grab the Ubuntu ISO disk image here and burn it do CD, you can boot from that CD and see what works and what doesn't on your machine:
<http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download>

If you decide to install, the lovely Nixie Pixel teaches you how in her five-minute video:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnLk3gviWY>

:)

Nixie's fun, but really the Ubuntu installer is so simple you probably won't need any help with that. I find it very similar to the OS X installer, and much simpler than installing Windows.

Another way to explore Linux is in a VM. I use VirtualBox on all my systems (thanks to Mark Weider for the recommendaton), and here it outperforms Parallels in restoring sessions, taking less than half the time. Doesn't hurt that it's also free (in both senses of the word):
<https://www.virtualbox.org/>


If you run into any snags feel free to drop me an email, or you can find me in the Ubuntu forums under the screen name rg4w.

Have fun!  Let us know how it goes.

The LiveCode engine for Linux isn't quite on par with their engines for Mac and Win, but it's been much improved in recent years and in most areas runs like a champ.

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com
 LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv


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