On 05/11/2012 10:00 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
Dear list,

Could I get a recommendation from some of the Mac folks on this list about
a good 'Cleaner' application?

The last week or so, I've gained a rather persistent 'friend' - the dreaded
beach ball of death.  All the time. Type a few letters in a browser (Safari
or Chrome) and then a delay, then the ball for about 30 seconds.

My lovely Mac pro is in hell.   Yes I have a lot of apps, and yes I am
running Lion.
And that doesn't help either as it insists on loading every app and
document I had running the last time*.
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I am probably facing a complete re-install at this point. I had other plans
this day. Dreams of Snow Leopard abound. I just wanted to use the Cloud to
sync calendars and address book stuff.

Anyway, I'd like to try a 'cleaner' first, but I don't know anyone that's
actually used one.
And it's , um, a kind of a serious app type that could ruin your life if it
screws up.

the one that's promoted the most is Mac Keeper.

I downloaded it, and executed first run, but did not tell it to do
anything. I got paranoid after I read some negative about it on the web,
and it took an hour to uninstall it, as it has no uninstaller that actualy
works.

here's the complete list of others that I've downloaded but not executed:

Mac Keeper               - the best UI - looks like it could work - about
$35
AppCleaner.app         - took an hour to do its survey and didn't warn me
if it was a paid app or not, so I quit
CleanMyMac.app       - not tested
OnyX.app                  - the only free one - ran it but didn't help
SpeedUpMac.app      -- not tested

Anyone have a recommendation?

Yes; but I don't suppose you will like any of them:

1. Snow Leopard (10.6), or even Leopard (10.5).

2. A Linux distro.

I do get the feeling (and this may be quite wrong as my PPC macMini isn't all that informative
about Mac OS 10.7) that the Mac OS has gone a bit "sour".

As a long-time fan of the Macintosh (well, since 1993), I do hope that Apple finds
its way that it seems to have lost of late.

Something has happened in the OS world of late; Mac Lion, Windows 8, Ubuntu Unity and GNOME 3 that seems to indicate that the people at the top who make the decisions may have stopped
listening to their user-base quite as attentively as they did in the past.

Every time I turn on my PPC macMini running Mac OS 10.4.11 I am pleasantly reminded of how really very good indeed the Mac OS was at that stage (and was slightly better at 10.5). Just as I feel when I turn on Linux boxes at my school running GNOME 2, and the VirtualBox 'thing' of Windows XP here on my Xubuntu 12.04 box.


thanks in advance,


sqb

**(What bright pup at Apple thought that was a cool idea?I'd like to
strangle that person. Yes I know there's a checkbox at shutdown, but I
don't ever want that feature, and I always forget. And if I have to
force-quit from a Kernel panic I get all the docs and apps reloaded that I
was running hours ago. Stupid stupid stupid.)*
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