This conversation is cheering me up - it seems to show that, however glacially, movement does take place in the complex interactions between publishing, rights and technology. I for one would certainly like to know (as a consumer) when some of this stuff comes back to life, as you put it.
Graham PS I have actually found my copy of the Warner New Media Beethoven CD-ROM. I see it was written by Cynthia Wall. Must have been a heck of a lot of work. On 4 Jan 2013, at 00:35, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: > I confess to being the producer/designer of the Mozart "Dissonant" Quartet > CD-ROM back in the day. Colin and my stays at Voyager overlapped for a time. > > Robert Winter, the author of the program had the foresight to retain rights > to the content. I work with him at UCLA and we have been working to > re-release the programs as circumstances allow. > > Another version of one, Dvorak's "New World" Symphony, has been out for a > while. I programmed it in iShell, and have intentions to convert it to RunRev: > http://www.artsinteractive.org > > The issue of intellectual rights is a great discussion. It's important to > note that copyrights do expire at some point.... > > In our case the issues were a personal one that I can't get into, and the > difficulty with licensing the recorded music that is a critical part of the > program. We're happy to have now worked out a deal with major recording > company and are on a trajectory to bringing back this stuff to life. > > Also, a major holdup with a lot of the material in the past was the > difficulty with distribution. Voyager was always bedeviled by it. Where did > you sell these physical products in the pre-Internet days? Software stores > charged for shelf space and no other brick and mortar really carried much. So > sales were mostly catalog/mail order to libraries, and individuals who > happened to find out about them. > > Of course, that has all now changed. > > And, I am happy to be now using RunRev to accomplish the cross-platform > things we couldn't do in the misty past, as well as entering the mobile world. > > Peter Bogdanoff > UCLA > > On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Richmond <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Somewhere in the Attic of my house in Scotland there is a voyager CD of >> something to do with music by Mozart, and as >> far as I remember, it was rather good stuff; and, luckily, in the attic >> there are 5 Macs that can cope with it - the best being >> a 5200 something; and, down the stairs there are 3 iMacs slot-loading all >> running Mac OS 9. I hope to get over there in the Summer >> and arrange for quite a bit of that stuff to be transported to Bulgaria >> (especially my dear BBC Master). >> >> Now, I don't know who produced the Mozart CD, but I would be quite prepared >> to buy a version that functioned on a contemporary OS, >> say Debian derivative linux! >> >> I really wonder if the chap who wrote the software and had the idea realises >> that with a small amount of effort s/he could >> re-jig the thing for the current market. However s/he doesn't stand a chance >> if some middle-man (publisher) is sitting on the >> thing and won't let her/him do that. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode