Well, it's a bit more complicated: the effective screenrect alone doesn't work, it must be "the effective working screenrect"… No equivalent options for the screenloc, just the plain one.
I tested what is available on my mac and got: the screenRect: 0,0,1680,1050 the working screenRect: 0,22,1680,1002 the effective working screenRect: 0,22,1680,1002 the screnloc: 840,525 the working screenLoc: nada the effective working screenLoc: nada again Jacques Le 2 avr. 2013 à 12:40, Richmond <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> a écrit : > That is a bit misleading: > > 'effective' was introduced in version 1.0 > > 'effective screenLoc' was introduced in version 5.5.3 > > and where this leaves you 'effective screenRect' I just don't know. > > now, in LC 4.5 if I write: > > put the screenLoc I get a pair of numbers that tell me where on > my desktop my stack's centre is . . . > > I assume (???) that 'effective screenLoc', similarly, will present one > with a pair of numbers that differ slightly. > > Those 2 numbers, either way, will tell me bu**er all about whether I have > screen furniture left, right, top or bottom, or how much my screen furniture > obtrudes on the desktop. > > If (using LC 4.5) I have a script like this: > > on mouseUp > put the screenRect & " - " & the screenLoc into fld "SKREEN" > end mouseUp > > I get a quad of comma delimited numbers (the 3rd and 4th being useful as they > tell me the > screenRect) followed by my dash, followed by a pair of comma delimited > numbers telling me > where my stack is centred. > > Now . . . > > IFF later versions of LC (pace 5.5.3) have BOTH 'effective screenRect' and > 'effective screenLoc' > that would be very useful > > ---- pause for parenthetic bitchiness ---- > > I wonder why the 'userguide.pdf' available for download from the RunRev > website has not > been updated since 2010 ???? > > ---- end of pause ---- > > as one could use those 2 in tandem for all sorts of resizing and > repositioning exercises. > > I assume (???) that, on most computers, 'effective screenRect' will yield a > smaller pair of 3rd and 4th numbers to 'screenRect', > > and I assume (???) that 'effective screenLoc' will do likewise as it will > count the bottom of any > top-located startbar/taskbar/menubar/dock as the top of the 'effective > screenRect', and so on > with stuff along the sides and bottom of one's desktop. > > I suppose, if one were very clever (???) by comparing 'screenLoc' and > 'effective screenLoc' one could > work out the difference in width and height of one's usable desktop versus > one's actual desktop, but > that would still NOT tell one if, for instance, one had a taskbar at the top > and a taskbar at the bottom, or only one at one of the two locations. >> >> I suppose it was first introduced for the version 5, without some subtleties >> for mobiles (I do not keep old docs) . So you have to wait for 6 more days … > > Not really, as I would like to keep control of my program's code. > > I will have to wait and see what gives with my projected Kickstarter campaign > that is meant to run from > 1 May to 1 June (attempting to raise about 5-6000 pounds); which, should it > work would finance a shopping list that looks like this: > > 1. Lifetime licence to Commercial Livecode. > > 2. The ability to cut down my teaching duties at my EFL school to 1 day a > week (rather than 4) for > about 6 months so that I can get through my next 3 system development > lifecycles in 6 months > rather than 3-4 years. > > ------ Relatively boring, non-coding stuff following; if you are only > interested in coding stop > readong now. ------ > > I will, obviously, be interested (and about buckets more than just 'effective > screenLoc') to get my sweaty paws on Open Source Livecode 6.0; and, although > my pledge was not on the monster scale > that some others generously gave, I do like to believe I have some stake in > the thing. > > However, I am well aware of the 'price' of using Open Source Livecode: that > one cannot hide one's > code, and, in fact, one has to make it available in such a way that anybody > can run off with it, > twiddle it about a bit, and start pumping it out as their own. > > As such that does not fuss me for stuff like the EFL standalones I keep > making for my school, as my > income is based on my teaching and not on that software. In fact if one wants > to be fairly crude, > that EFL software is designed for 2 reasons: > > 1. When the kids are using it Richmond gets enough time to pop out of the > room and put the kettle > on for a cup of tea. > > 2. For some odd, inexplicable reason, kids focus far better on some fairly > crappy, predictable grammar > exercise when it is presented in "polychromic glory" on a computer screen > than when it is printed out > as a monochrome handout to be worked on with a pencil. > > What DOES fuss me is that my 'Devawriter Pro' is not some sort of simplistic > EFL squib pumped out > on a spare afternoon, but a lovingly crafted thing that, so far, has taken me > about 3 and a half years > of my spare time, involving alot of thought, planning and all the other crap > associated with developing serious software. And for that I feel I'd like the > odd bit of financial recompense. > > HOWEVER: if my Kickstarter campaign works (i.e. I raise the sum) I am > wondering about releasing the > finished product both FREE and Open Source, on the understanding that there > will be no further > work done on the thing subsequently. IFF I do decide to do that I will be > able to continue development using the Open Source version. > ------ > > Richmond. > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ****************************************** Prof. Jacques Hausser Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore / Sorge University of Lausanne CH 1015 Lausanne please use my private address: 6 route de Burtigny CH-1269 Bassins tel: ++ 41 22 366 19 40 mobile: ++ 41 79 757 05 24 E-Mail: jacques.haus...@unil.ch ******************************************* _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
