Reading all the posts in this thread I have reached a number of
conclusions which, really in good Wittgensteinian tradition, are questions:
1. Why do I NEVER have these problems?
1.1. Is the sort of coding I do with Livecode "so goofy" / simple /
babyish that it will never
"get its knickers in a twist" ?
1.2. Is the fact that for any commercial stuff I do (that includes
little 'widgets' as well as Devawriter)
made with version 4.5 something to do with that? and does that
mean that 'chipmunks' have
subsequently taken up residence in the woodpile?
2. Why do I think of a couple of postings on the theme 'too fast, too
soon' I made a while back?
3. Why do I feel that, considering what has been done by Runtime
Revolution in the last 2 years
( a.k.a. from zero-to-hero, from a sort of minority, slightly kinky
outgrowth of Hypercard used
by a couple of hundred people to a widespread and bl**dy amazing
thing; Open Source and all )
these 'gripes' are not too bad all things considered?
4. Why do I feel that once all the Kickstarter targets (and stretch
goals) have been reached, RunRev
will have enter a period of retrenchment and sort out all the bugs
and beasties that have
crept into the bed as a result of their recent marvellous expansion?
Certainly, I would not "spit nails"; possibly the odd "blast" and "d*mn"
once in a while. But as I know
NOTHING about the underpinnings of Livecode I tend to be filled with
admiration as to how much
"just works" without all the pain-without-gain that I recall from
FORTRAN, PASCAL and the "also-rans"
of the OO world such as Toolbook.
Richmond.
On 08/30/2013 09:09 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:00 PM, J. Landman Gay
<jac...@hyperactivesw.com> wrote:
Breakpoints won't break if the line calls into an IDE/rev script. That's the
only time I've ever seen it happen. The solution is to break just before or
just after that line.
There are those, and then there are the ones that just plain get
ignored, those that wander, those that go stale (which may explain the
first category).
In a full day of coding, I will have multiple events where I stop at
an odd point--because the red dot wandered down the code, usually by
7-20 lines. (sometimes, I can identify the particular breakpoint from
the condition inside it).
I will also have a few incidents in which a dot goes stale--it works
for a while, and then starts getting ignored. But if I delete it and
click another there, it starts working.
Restarting because strict compilation gets confused and finds a
variable to be shadowing itself is a couple of times an hour.
I have never seen the message box wander. Since you didn't get a reply when
you posted it, I suspect no one else has either. To me, it sounds like a
scripting issue. Maybe you have a script that sets the location of a stack
or some other object, but it isn't specifying the correct target.
I didn't have *any* code that set the position of a stack until I put
in some to try to correct this (and now I have a dedicated button . .
.). There is a spot that moves newly placed groups in output, but
this happens on IDE load. There is a single script that moves a
selection filed, but it calls it by field name an dis in the card
script.
Which tools don't work or disappear? (I've never seen that either.)
Shortly before I wrote the first message, the tool palette just went
away, and would not come back when attempted from the menubar. I had
to restart livecode to get it back. The application browser has
vanished a couple of times, too, but has come back without restart
If an
IDE object is disappearing, see if you can find a correlation to a place in
one of your scripts that hides an object. If so, see what it thinks the
target object is.
It's too rare to watch for. But when it happened, it was at the end
of a long day of being beat up on by the others.
Are you using the new project browser? Do things improve if you close it?
I'm still using 5.5.4, at least until 6.1.1 is actually released and
found stable for a while.
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