Sorry for my many Linux questions recently (and thanks again for all the 
replies)

On most UBUNTU distros I can do

put the long system time (locale is set to german) and it displays just fine

under UBUNTU 13.10

put the long system time yields empty with german settings.

I suspect this is some UBUNTU setting, but for the life of me I can not figure 
it out. Any clues much appreciated.

Malte
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