On 12/15/2014 03:01 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Richmond <richmondmathew...@gmail.com>
wrote:

On 14/12/14 18:30, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

If I do roll back, though, it's not going to be to wait for 7, but to get
by until I figure out how to transfer my effort to another platform
entirely.

"wait for 7" sounds odd as we, supposedly, have "7" as a done deal already.

"supposedly" being the magic word.  Calling any 7 to date "beta" would be
geerous, at best.



Frankly, If I could roll back the clock two and a half years, I'd choose

something else.  Supercard 1.5 and Hypercard 2.0, with the addition of
database support, could have handled what I need (I can say that with
certainty because I actually implemented essentially the same program on
both twenty years ago, using cards in a stack as the "database").

I think your 'gripes' are because you have got onto the "constantly
upgrading"
conveyor belt, which, in my experience causes little but grief.

My production work takes place on a 2005 G5 Macintosh running Livecode 4.5
on Mac OS 10.5.8.

I do my "Livecode playtime" on a machine running a recent Linux version
and all Open Source versions of LC
up to and including 7.0.1 rc3 - but I certainly would NOT transfer all my
Pismo, Grendel and Devawriter code
to anything more than 4.5 which has served me extremely well for the last
5 years.

I have no "playtime" for livecode; this is pure production work, replacing
something that worked for my own use.  *I* can do more with a spreadsheet
than I ever could with livecode or another pure programming platform; I
bought livecoe to implement for other people.  My purposes are purely
commercial, and I had no qualms about the $1k/year for the developer
license & suppot.

And then with kickstarterer, the working and stable version--for which I'm
licensed forever--is pretty much abandoned; end of life from before the
extra years.



I am well aware that most people need something more contemporary than
what I use,
but my advice would be to find something that works (e.g. LC 5.5) on a
system that works, and
stick with it as long as possible.

At which point there's no reason for my having continued with newer
licenses . . .

Indeed. And if enough people don't pay for commercial licenses RunRev might
start to "feel the pinch" and pull themselves together to consolidate an
existing release rather than pelting hell-for-leather towards the "bright new future".

The other alternative is to keep selling a version 'down' in the fives and only releasing stuff in the sevens as Open Source until they have tuned things to a commercial standard: but
that is going to cripple RunRev's cashflow.


If livecode wants to be  *commercial* license rather than a toy, it needs
to put out commercial grade software.



'Tis true, me dear!

Richmond.


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