Hey cool. It would never have occurred to me that setting a background could wreak such havoc. Another bug to squash is a good thing. (2 in fact, lc shouldn't pick up the disabled proxy setting either)
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Bernard Devlin <bdrun...@gmail.com> wrote: > Mike, I'm extremely grateful for your help on this matter. And I have > finally got some kind of explanation of what is going wrong. > > Hearing that the native appearance manager worked for you on Win7/64 - > which is what I'm on too - I created another user account and logged in > there. LC7 RC4 "native theme" works when using that account. That was a > breakthrough. > > So I returned to my normal account and checked if I had switched off Aero > or something else. I hadn't. But what I had done was had set an image as > my desktop background. I saved that "theme", and reverted to the default > Windows 7 theme, and now "native theme" works within LC7. Having a plain > themed background has not been a problem on LC 5.x or 6.x. I was working > on this Win7 PC with LC 5.5 for about 3 years. > > If I revert back to my old desktop theme, with LC7 open, the "view" menu > gets completely screwed up in LC7. Basically, it looks like a wreck -- it > has different colours from the other LC menus and is neither a Win95, OS X > nor Motif theme. Restart LC7 with my themed desktop, and I'm back to a > Motif appearance and the problem of the "native theme" option not working. > If I switch to any of the other provided themes which are installed on > Win7, then it is only after a restart of LC7 that the appearance reverts, > and "native theme" works. > > I guess this must mean I'm the only LC user who has created a theme of > their own. Mine was nothing more than a graphic I used as the backdrop for > the desktop. > > I can at least enter this in the bug report. > > Regards, > Bernard > > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Mike Bonner <bonnm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Can't test on 7.0.1 stable, but on rc4 it has an affect. in rc4 from the > > menu, it does appear to work for me, setting back to the native > appearance > > manager look. > > > > I looked at this though: > > The "Appearance Manager" option can be used only on Windows XP, Mac OS > and > > OS X systems. If you set the lookAndFeel to "Appearance Manager" on a > Unix > > system, it is reset to "Motif". Similarly, tf you set the lookAndFeel to > > "Appearance Manager" on a pre-Windows XP system, it is reset to "Wondows > > 95". > > > > It is still behaving as if the engine doesn't think you're on windows. > > Since you can set it, and it is then "reset", somewhere in there it must > be > > checking the platform and failing. At this point, since you checked the > > platform from the msg box, I have NO idea why it might be doing that. So > > color me stumped. > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Bernard Devlin <bdrun...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > The suggestion about a system proxy was a good one! > > > > > > That proxy was disabled on a system-wide basis on Windows; the values > for > > > the proxy were still in the boxes (but grayed-out). It appears all the > > > browsers were ignoring these values, as the Internet Options said to > not > > > use a proxy. Livecode seemed to get that value still. After setting > > that > > > to empty on a system-wide basis, then saving revPreferences, the proxy > > > value is now empty in LC across restarts. > > > > > > Alas the lookAndFeel is still not working. I took your suggestion > > > seriously, and did a restart. But still no change on this front. > > > > > > If I put the platform, it is "Win32". If I change the lookAndFeel > > through > > > the menu, then the lookAndFeel reports "Windows 95". But this does not > > > persist across restarts. You may be right, that the lookAndFeel is not > > > saved with revPreferences. But then the conundrum is why this would > look > > > like "Motif" by default, whereas on LC 6.7 and earlier it correctly > stays > > > as "Windows 95" > > > > > > Incidentally, do you find that clicking the "native theme" on the View > > menu > > > has any effect, i.e if you choose "Motif", then after that choose > "Native > > > Theme", does it display the appropriate appearance for your platform? > > When > > > I try this on 6.7 and 7.0.1, it changes nothing. > > > > > > Bernard > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Mike Bonner <bonnm...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Reading up on some stuff. You might check to make sure that windows > > > itself > > > > doesn't have a stuck proxy setting (not likely, since you'd notice it > > > > elsewhere, but worth a check) because liburl will use the windows > > setting > > > > of it isn't set specifically with code. At least it's something to > > > > eliminate. Might also (if you didn't) confirm that "the platform" > does > > > > indeed return win32 to eliminate that also. I haven't yet found > where > > > the > > > > "lookandfeel" is stored if at all, doesn't look like it is so far, > > hence > > > my > > > > re-asking about the platform. I looked at what the menu selection > does, > > > and > > > > it appears that all it does is "set the lookandfeel to ..whatever" > but > > > > there could be a setprop somewhere that I haven't found yet. > > > > > > > > Worst case (I know its a pain) setup a plugin that sets the > lookandfeel > > > to > > > > "appearance manager" as well as setting the proxy to empty. > > > > > > > > Another silly thought, but.. this is windows. Have you restarted > > lately? > > > > About out of ideas, but i'll keep poking around and maybe get lucky. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
