On 31/12/14 22:37, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 12/31/2014 1:23 PM, Richmond wrote:

What I need to know is where in those 2 volumes I should place my
Livecode standalone so that it shows up on the iPad desktop.

It's all hidden and iOS doesn't offer a file system. The only way to get an app onto your device normally is to install it the usual way via over-the-air or through iTunes.

I don't know how jailbreaking the device will affect it, but in an unrooted device you must have a developer account and the appropriate certificates and distribution profiles set up. Otherwise the app won't install.

If there is a different way with a jailbroken tablet then you'll need to do some research, as Apple doesn't allow that.

"Apple doesn't allow that"; Ooo, I'm scared . . .

I jail-broke the thing because I really don't like being told what to do with something I own:

1. A friend of mine keeps hens in a car: that's OK. Mind you it can be a bit disconcerting if one brakes suddenly and one gets a squawking chicken butting one in the back of the head. The second time I borrowed one of his cars I took the second from the left (he has 8 old cars in a row), knowing the hens stayed in the first. I saw some lovely day-lilies growing in the sheuch, stopped the car, and felt something licking my neck - I'd picked the car with the goat!

2. I use a copy of a book given out at airports by a well-known cult as a way to prop open the toilet door so the cats can get in and out to do their business: that's positively a lot better than what the cult intends it for.

3. The iPad was gifted to me by my son (who was gifted it by Sheikh Abdullah al-Thani); so I really don't know who agreed to
some funny EULA that won't stick anyway.
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"It's all hidden and iOS doesn't offer a file system." Really? Try hooking an iPad up to a Linux box. Extremely informative.

When I connect the iPod to my Ubuntu Studio I can see a set of nested directories via the Thunar file-browser that is
the standard XFCE thing:

One path: /Documents on Richmond's iPad/ contains folders with the same names as apps I have installed (i.e. NOT the standard ones that come pre-installed when one installs iOS), each of thos folders contains one folder called ZZZ.app (where 'ZZZ' is the name of the app) and a series of other folders: 'Documents', 'Library', 'tmp' and two documents: 'iTunesArtwork' and 'iTunesMetadata.plist'.

So, PRESUMABLY, I have to author an iOS standalone on Macintosh and then put the resulting app package in a folder with the same name in
the Documents folder via Linux.

Certainly that is what I shall try to do.

I shall also have some 'fun' examining the contents of the plist files of other apps . . .

By-ther-way: the file system mounts on Linux running XFCE regardless of whether it has been jail-broken or not.

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Before anyone wants to get all hoity-toity and pompous about my jail-breaking an old iPad (and the amount of people on this Use-List and the Forums who do get all hoity-toity about that sort of thing never ceases to amaze me, especially as the imposition of those sort of rules by companies that manufacture operating systems and/or computer hardware is legally shaky at the best of times, and anybody with a half-decent brain can work out that legality and morality do not have a one-to-one correspondence), I assure you I have NOT jail-broken my iPad out of some of attempt to start manufacturing Livecode standalones and handing them out from my website with instructions to end-users on how to subvert Apple's draconian control to install the things.

I have fooled around with the iPad emulator and, frankly, find it extremely difficult to work with: an iPad coming my way was jolly lucky; so I jail-broke the thing for 2 reasons, the first is listed above, and the second is so I can try out an iPad standalone PROPERLY by running my alpha, beta and (probably) gamma, delta and epsilon versions on the thing before I go and make a fool of myself by issuing an
iPad App that mucks everybody's iPad up.
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I should, perhaps, point out that if anybody else wants a "walk on the wild side" and to jail-break their iPad, I tried it twice: the first time I "hosed" the thing completely and had to restore the whole thing via iTunes.

The second time I used a different method and, so far, things seem alright.

Anybody who wants the exact details should contact me off-list as this has "sweet F.A." to do with Livecode.

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"in an unrooted device you must have a developer account and the appropriate certificates and distribution profiles set up. Otherwise the app won't install. "

One of the jolly things about 'Cydia' (the app-thing that gets installed on one's iPad if one jail-breaks it by one of the standard, ready-made ways), is that there is a user-guide that tells you how to obtain administrator access using
Mobile Terminal' and everybody's favourite "su root".

Richmond.


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