Mark,
The widgets are kind of nice, but I don't see them as a tool to allow me
to theme my app. I see them as a tool that eventually allows me talk to
the API of the OS.
I expected to have a way to apply themes to windows, buttons, fields
(scroll bars) and other controls. I didn't expect to have to learn
another language to do this. I thought this would be a step towards
native themes on iOS and Android and compatibility with themes on Linux.
Did I misunderstand this completely ?
Even if I misunderstood what the feature entails, will we still have the
pluggable themes as promised within a reasonable time frame, say 3
months? (Reasonable, since all goals should have been reached some time
ago by now).
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On 5/10/2015 19:41, Mark Waddingham wrote:
On 2015-05-10 19:34, Paul Dupuis wrote:
On 5/10/2015 1:01 PM, Richmond wrote:
listing of the Kickstarter goals and what happened to them
Open Source Livecode - DONE
Unicode - DONE
Resolution Independence - DONE
Plugable Themes - NOT DONE - last word from RunRev that I recall was
that this was tied to engine changes in LC8
Cocoa - DONE
Physic Engine - NOT DONE - tied to engine changes in LC8
Windows 8/Phone - NOT DONE - tied to engine changes in LC8
Vector Object - NOT DONE - ties to engine changes in LC8
Multimedia - PARTIALLY DONE (OSX AVFoundation), they have stated that a
full cross-platform media support is, also, tied to the engine changes
in 8.
New Browser Object - DONE (if I recall correctly)
I am not aware of any goal that RunRev has forgotten in any of their
posts on this topic. They have moved goals around in their timetable for
what they have stated was efficiency in implementation. For example,
they have stated that the Vector object will take less effort to deliver
under the engine changes in LC8 that trying to add it to LC6. They have
also revised their timetable, indicating which items are tried to what
version of the engine. Note that "tied to the engine changes in LC8"
does not necessarily mean delivered it LC8. It means it is dependent on
having those changes in place. You can believe them or not as you like.
Thanks Paul - that is a very good way to sum up where we are :)
Indeed 'Pluggable Themes' was one of the contention points which caused
our slight redirection through widgets.
Pluggable (visual) themes are great but there is a great deal more to
getting things to work specifically as they do on individual platforms
than visual representation. Sure you can use native objects, but if you
want something which works like a native object but needs a little more
you have to fall back to writing or adapting what is there. i.e. Themes
in their true sense of meaning a control works precisely how it should
on any given platform (or perhaps more accurately, allow you to write a
control which works like a native object but gives the functionality you
need) requires code; just having a flexible 'fixed' themeing system is
not enough.
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