I thought I had read that the LC guys had fixed "it" to reliably refer the 
newly created group.  If this still doesn't work, another workaround is to set 
the name of the templateGroup before creating any group, so you have a 
guaranteed reference when the group is created.  I've used this option for 
years without issue.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media UX/UI Design

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
> 
> > submitted in 2009 is still pending.
> > *Bug 8275* <http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8275> -Groups:
> > Bugs and features ("last group" broken)?
> > *Status*:    PENDING
> 
> Thanks, Wilhelm.  I had thought I'd seen a new engine enhancement for this, 
> but apparently I'm mistaken.
> 
> Since I can't think of a circumstance in which the IDs of the objects being 
> grouped can't be known in advance, Jeanne's suggestion appears to be the best 
> workaround available thus far.
> 
> -- 
> Richard Gaskin
> Fourth World Systems
> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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