Simon Smith wrote:

> I got Livecode server up and running on the Windows 10 using both
> XAMPP and WAMP without any trouble. Both WAMP and XAMPP only needed
> a small change. I have documented everything here.
> http://activethought.net/installing-livecode-windows/
>- and work equally well for hosting a LiveCode server locally.

Quite nice - thanks for posting that.


> I started setting up an online Ubuntu server  - but it's been a while
> since I have done it and its many many little steps and a lot of work
> to document. And I don't think its an ideal solution either -
> developers need something reliable that they can get up and running
> quickly and does not require in depth knowledge of Linux to get setup.

LOL - I said the same think after trying to set up a WAMP server a client required. I think as with anything touching on platform advocacy, the easiest thing is the one you know. :)

In my case I began learning Linux because an increasing number of projects had client-server requirements, and nearly every shared host and most VPSes I've seen offer Linux, with only a few offering Windows Server at an additional cost.

I've even had clients who use Windows exclusively on the desktop throughout their org (even the art dept. where Mac might be a better fit), but when it came to their public-facing systems they use Linux exclusively, much as Apple, Amazon, and Google rely on it for their clouds.

With OS X being a certified UNIX and Linux being very UNIX-based, I found I was able to leverage a lot of Mac automation skills when I started moving those bash scripts to my Linux hosts.

In Win10 Anniversary Edition and later, Ubuntu is now available as a subsystem there too, so one can build their bash skills universally now.

As for the steps involved, Mike Bonner's outline was very helpful:
<http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-June/238297.html>

And if you use Docker it gets even easier, thanks to Charles Warwick's LC container, allowing installation in one step, the Docker way:
<http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-June/238318.html>



> So after some research I can across ServerPilot.io - a cloud based
> control panel for cloud servers (like Digital Ocean and Vultr). You
> setup a clean server - link it to their control panel - and it takes
> care of everything - in a minute or two you get a nicely setup server
> - with control panel, mysql, apache and PHP.. Their free option gives
> you the basics - everything that you need to get a server up and
> running. There is the option of upgrading the control panel to get
> extra features. Unfortunately the free account does not give you the
> ability to setup SSL, You need to pay $10 a month for that - but you
> can get around that using Cloud Flare.  All that you have to do is
> setup LiveCode once everything is done - and you what is
> a really nice little potent little server.
>
> If interested - I have gone through it in more detail here, I rushed
> so hope I have not left anything out -
> http://activethought.net/perfect-livecode-cloud-server/.

Very nice - thanks.

This reminds me of an interesting service Scott McDonald put together a while back, The LiveCode Lab, with multiple versions of LC Server set up and ready to use:
<http://thelivecodelab.com/>

The functional part is currently offline, but perhaps if some here were in a position to lend a hand he might be motivated to bring it back online.


And of course if shared hosting will suffice, the good folks at HostM continue to offer a good price for what is AFAIK the only third-party commercial hosting service offering pre-configured LiveCode Server:
<https://www.hostm.com/livecode-hosting>

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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