"Assault" . . . Woof.
"The screen seizure indicates a mindset catering to the simplistic,
unsophisticated, and non-programming user"
Well . . .
I'm not sure why favouring a backdrop blocking out a desktop indicates
that one is 'simplistic' . . .
Until I went to the US in 1993 I had never seen a GUI except for a
really awful attempt at one on a BBC Micro;
but I was perfectly capable of doing distinctly non-simplistic stuff
with FORTRAN, PASCAL, BASIC and so on.
Recently I started a group of kids on a summer programming course with
BBC BASIC on a load of
BBC Micro computers: very effective and lots of fun was had all round.
There are front-ends for Linux available that do NOT splatter the screen
with icons and other screen 'furniture' (docks and so on)
for people who prefer things that way: I don't suppose they are either
simplistic or unsophisticated.
Personally I don't like using a backdrop with LiveCode, but I can see
its use to the extent that my Devawriter Pro has an in-built
backdrop for those who want one.
"non-programming user"
My Mum uses a laptop running Xubuntu 14.04 where her desktop is gaily
peppered with icons and a dock; while she is
neither simplistic nor unsophisticated she is most definitely a
non-programming user.
For a lawyer you seem remarkably . . . [well, there we are, I'll leave
you to fill in the dots].
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NOW . . . to be sensible . . .
Let us imagine when starting up LiveCode for the first time we are
presented with a menu window that allows us to choose whether we think
that we are:
1. A newbie who is seeing the thing for the first time.
2. A haory old programmer who does not need his/her/its handheld.
And at that point we can get all Prince-of-Denmarky with our backdrop.
Richmond.
On 7/19/17 10:16 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote:
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
Surely the most sensible route here is to decide on defaults and see if
people for whom those defaults are relevant have any objections? I'm not
sure it is necessary to be offended on behalf of hypothetical new users :-)
To be absolutely, crystal clear, as a non-hypothetical former new user:
there is very little chance that I would have become a user after an
assault like that.
The assault itself is an information signal, whether correctly perceived or
not, about how the project development mindset views it's own importance,
users, and how users should submit to its preferences.
Seize my interface, and I'm pretty much instantly hostile. At that point,
you're not trying to attract a curious potential user, but an angry one,
and that will color the response.
The screen seizure indicates a mindset catering to the simplistic,
unsophisticated, and non-programming user--at the expense of hostility to
those who have experience, ttc.
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