Hi Tiemo, The "load url" call does use tsNet if you are on Indy or Business. In fact every network-related operation does use tsNet on Indy and Business. Moreover, the tsNet external was updated in LiveCode 8.1.4 rc2 (to fix bug http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19026), so it quite possible that this update has caused the regression you experienced in 8.1.4 stable.
For reference, those are the tsNet versions that are included in the LC recent versions: LC 8.1.4 rc-1 : tsNet 1.2.7 LC 8.1.4-rc-2 until 8.1.4 stable: tsNet 1.2.8 LC 8.1.5 stable: tsNet 1.2.9 LC 8.1.6 rc-1 until 8.1.6 stable (to be released very soon): tsNet 1.2.10 When a LC release includes a new tsNet version, this is mentioned in the release email. So I would guess that tsNet 1.2.9 has caused this bug for you in 8.1.4, which was fixed in tsNet 1.2.10 (included in LC 8.1.5). Best regards, Panos -- On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Mark, > thank you for your explanations. What I can understand are the regressions > switching from 6 to 7/8, because of widely new underlying architecture and > components. That was a huge step. There I had a lot of sympathy. What is > much more harder to understand and acceptable are the regressions within > version 8. I would think that there is not such a general exchange of > components under the hood from 8.1.4rc1 to 8.1.4, which would make a total > test of every detail necessary. My first idea was a bug in tsNet.dll, but > this "load URL" bug is not caused by the different versions of tsnet, but > definitively by LC 8.1.4. > Tiemo > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im > Auftrag von Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2017 13:41 > An: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > Cc: Mark Waddingham <m...@livecode.com> > Betreff: Re: AW: load URL is broken in 8.1.4 > > I don't think there is anyway we can deny that the transition from 6.x to > 7.x caused a lot of regressions. > > This is why we have a strict policy of handling maintenance releases now - > i.e. we work very hard to ensure each maintenance version is strictly > better than before. > > I know of a number of users who have had similar difficulties moving from > 6 straight to 8 - however, barring the occasional error (e.g. The backdrop > fiasco and the load URL one you mention directly) 8.1.(x+1) has had less > regressions relative to 6 - and no regressions relative to 8.1.x. > > Also (as far as we can) regressions relative to older versions get very > high priority in our bug fixing queue. > > So things might not yet be perfect but I'd hope that everyone can see that > we've made great strides (indeed, we've made good progress on fixing issues > which have been around a lot longer recently - even back to the very early > days of the MetaCard engine). > > No-one likes encountering regressions - however in a system as complex and > broad as ours they are often unavoidable. > > Every one sees a different view of the elephant so to speak - and we try > to act as quickly as we can when issues are reported (usually seeeing them > fixed in the next maintenance release). > > Warmest Regards, > > Mark. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 31 Jul 2017, at 12:27, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > I forgot my final question: Have you made similar experiences or is it > > only me and how do you handle this permanent hazard of regression bugs? > > Tiemo > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im > > Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode > > Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2017 11:16 > > An: LiveCode User Liste senden <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > > Cc: Tiemo Hollmann TB <toolb...@kestner.de> > > Betreff: load URL is broken in 8.1.4 > > > > Hello, > > > > For my automatic update mechanism I am downloading a zip file from a > > web server, extracting the zip file and starting the downloaded update. > > > > I am doing this since years, without having changed anything in my > > code. Now in 8.1.4, Windows 10 this load URL downloads a > > "broken/corrupted" empty zip file, which breaks my whole update > > process. In 8.1.4 rc1 this still has worked and in 8.1.5 it seems to > > work again without any changes in my code or the zip file. I didn't > tested yet 8.1.6 and 9. > > > > I had done a minor change in my program, completely far off the > > download handler and just build a new standalone for a new CD > > production and thought I'll take the "stable" release 8.1.4 instead of > > the last build with 8.1.4 > > rc1 for the new production. Because it was only a minor bug fix in my > > program and I only switched from 8.1.4 to 8.1.4 rc1 I didn't tested > > each and every possible feature of my program, before going into the > > production of a new release. Only by a great chance I discovered that > > my update process is broken. If I would have sold this new CD > > production, I would never have been able to update my program again, > > because the update process would have been broken. > > > > In all the years working with RunRev/LiveCode I never have experienced > > so many, frequently regression bugs as in LC 8. I had at least 10-20 > > regression bugs in LC 8, since switching from 6.7. Almost in each > > single release candidate and each general release there are new > > regression bugs of old and common features so that it is a game of > > hazard to use a new release. I have no idea, what is going on behind > > the scenes in Edinborough, if it is related to the open source > > development, so that everybody can create regression bugs, but this > > isn't anymore a reliable software development. The complete > responsibility is passed to us. > > > > Sorry, but I am really pissed off and my trust in every new release > > has dropped to zero. > > > > Tiemo > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription > > preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Panagiotis Merakos <panos.mera...@livecode.com> LiveCode Software Developer Everyone Can Create Apps <https://livecode.com> _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode