I'm going to have to give that a try. I have standard menus, with additional 
menus depending on the module. I already have a script where I can add and 
remove menus on the fly and reposition all the buttons, so it wouldn't be 
difficult to set the menubar the way you are doing it, then add the custom 
menus on the fly! 

Bob S


> On Nov 15, 2018, at 08:32 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Terry,
> 
>> Am 15.11.2018 um 17:26 schrieb Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> 
>> This is fair enough but you still cannot put anything in the bottom 22 of a 
>> visible card on screen.
>> Try dragging an object to the card and it will not allow you to place it in 
>> the bottom 22 of the card (LC 9.0.1)
> 
> I ususally store my "menubar group" in a substack that will never be opened.
> Then I set "the defaultmenubar" of my stack to the name of that group and am 
> a happy camper,
> no more missing 22 pixels etc. on the Mac.


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