"selectGroupedControls" - well, I look at it and see "select the entire group". If they wanted it to mean "select individual controls within the group" it might have been better named "selectIndivCntrlInGroup" although I can see that the number of letters in the property (and the number of times I cause anyone else to respond to this diatribe) can get out of hand. (*grin*)

The important thing is that I am clear on it now.

However, it's interesting that selecting the individual controls that have been grouped once permits you to group them yet again. This gives them an additional script (under the new group ID). I don't see a use for this but I'm sure someone will tell me. (*yet another grin*)

Seriously: I really do appreciate all the help I've received from the listas. Problems have been resolved and I've been able to get work out the door. So thank you - all of you.

Regards,
Barry

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