There is only sparse documentation about "imagedata" in Revolution. Without the more detailed information and sample stacks from the websites of other experienced members of this list I would probably never have got a start to learn and apply some of the possibilities of imagedata handling.

Therefore it is praiseworthy that he Revolution team now tries to provide us with more useful information in Newsletter #48 and introduce us to the "use of thresholding for image manipulation". They also apply modern "state-of-the-art" pedagogy, in so far as they bundle their example with kind of a joke for better learning. If such an approach isn't over-used it might indeed work.

My "Imagedata Toolkit" stack (last public version of May 2007

<http://www.sanke.org/Software/ImagedataToolkitPreview3.zip>)

among the more than 200 filters for manipulating imagedata already contains 7 filters using the threshold principle (see menu-button "thresholds").

I created another button in this stack adapting the script information in the newsletter to my environment to compare the new threshold filter.

First thing I noticed was that only 25% of an image is affected. This holds for all of the three script examples displayed in the newsletter. One important factor is missing in all these examples, which I leave to you to find out for yourselves (another instance of modern pedagogy).

I then downloaded the sample stack to have a look whether its scripts worked better, but for some reason I was unable to un-zip the stack on Windows, even after downloading it again. I transferred the archive to my Macbook and finally succeeded in extracting the stack using Stuffit Expander. Looking at the relevant script revealed that here the author of the stack had indeed added the missing factor.

Re-tranferring the unzipped stack back to Windows did not work first, until I found out that Windows did not like the question-mark as part of the stack name. I removed the question-mark, and then was able to get the stack onto my Windows computer, however, it was impossible to open it in Revolution. Therefore I only extracted the necessary script from the stack on my Macbook and put it into my Imagedata-Toolkit stack on my Windows machine.

Now I was able to compare the threshold script with my own 7 threshold buttons. The solution found by the author - even disregarding the entertainment factor - was fine and its effects different, but somewhat similar to those of my own buttons that use two or more thresholds.

However, I found the script to run much slower due to the many computations inside the nested repeat loops.-

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In the following, I use a step-by-step approach to show how the speed of the script execution could be improved. To do this I show only one of the thirteen script lines inside the loop that - concerning the definition of the imagedata chars - is identical to the other 12 lines.

"repeat with y = 1 to pHeight
repeat with x = 1 to pWidth put charToNum(char ((y - 1) * pWidth * 4) + ((x - 1) * 4) + 2 of pImage) into tRed"

The script as it is takes 3500 milliseconds to execute for an image 640x480 on my Windows computer.

Step 1: Remove the two "- 1" inside the loop and change the x and y start and end values accordingly;

new script:

"repeat with y = 0 to pHeight - 1
repeat with x = 0 to pWidth - 1 put charToNum(char (y * pWidth * 4) + (x * 4) + 2 of pImage) into tRed"

Speed gain here is about 300 milliseconds (now 3219).

Step 2: Compute "pwidth * 4" outside the loops;

new script:

"put pwidth * 4 into tpwidth
repeat with y = 0 to pHeight - 1
repeat with x = 0 to pWidth - 1 put charToNum(char (y * tpWidth) + (x * 4) + 2 of pImage) into tRed"

Speed gain another 300 ms (now 2932).

Step 3: Combine y with tpwidth;

new script:

"put pwidth * 4 into tpwidth
repeat with y = 0 to pHeight - 1
put y * tpwidth into typwidth
repeat with x = 0 to pWidth - 1 put charToNum(char typWidth + (x * 4) + 2 of pImage) into tRed"

Step 4: put "x*4" into tx;

new script:

"put pwidth * 4 into tpwidth
repeat with y = 0 to pHeight - 1
put y * tpwidth into typwidth
   repeat with x = 0 to pWidth - 1
put x * 4 into tx put charToNum(char typWidth + tx + 2 of pImage) into tRed"

Overall speed gain from beginning: 1 second (now 2585)

Step 5: Combine typwidth and tx;

new script:

"put pwidth * 4 into tpwidth
repeat with y = 0 to pHeight - 1
put y * tpwidth into typwidth
   repeat with x = 0 to pWidth - 1
put x * 4 into tx put typwidth + tx into tyx put charToNum(char tyx + 2 of pImage) into tRed"

Speed gain: another 100 ms (now 2461)

Step 6: Remove the irrelevant line accessing the alpha value of the imagedata char, i.e.

remove line (this is the original form)
"put charToNum(char ((y - 1) * pWidth * 4) + ((x - 1) * 4) + 1 of pImage) into tAlpha"

Speed gain: again 100 ms (now 2340).--

Overall speed gain is now 33% compared to the speed of the original script.-

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As an additional script example - which is not among the 7 scripts in my Imagedata stack - I tried to find a very simply structured script using "for each" (which is by the way - in this case - slower than a nested repeat loop), applying only one threshold, and using only the red value to create a black-and-white image:

"on mouseup
answer "Select threshold to create the black-and-white image:" with "80" or "100" or "128" or "150" or "180"
 wait 3 milliseconds
 put it into threshold
 set the cursor to watch
 put the imageData of image x into iData

 put 0 into counter
 repeat for each char C in idata
   add 1 to counter
   if counter mod 4 = 2 then # the red pixel
     put chartonum(C)  into tC
     if tC > threshold then
       put 255 into tC
     else
       put 0 into tC
     end if
   end if
   put numtochar(tC) into char counter of idata
 end repeat

 set the imageData of image x  to iData
end mouseUp"

(Pay attention to possible line breaks of this script  in this post.)

I hope I have added some useful information and thus have supported the efforts of the Rev team to familiarize us with imagedata manipulation.

Regards,

Wilhelm Sanke
<http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia>


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