Check out "Visibility of substacks" at revOnline under "Richmond".

it does, indded, seem very odd that even when a substack is CLOSED one can set 
its VIS to TRUE or FALSE:

i.e. exactly what (I think) Mikey describes; a closed substack (which the human 
in front of the monitor cannot see) registering as VISIBLE.

Unfortunately, while the VIS property exists in Runtime Revolution a
CLOSED property does not, as far as I am aware.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.

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