Eric Chatonet wrote:

In a previous post, you asked me what I thought about Win ribbons and I did not reply :-( Probably should we discuss about this off list

I'm hoping the folks here find this relevant, though if anyone expresses annoyance I'm happy to move it offline.

While we're all scripters, we're also all interface designers. And for better or worse, I think it's safe to say that the Ribbon is the biggest UI change we've seen in probably more than a decade, and one of the more comprehensively researched ones, so at very least it's good to be familiar with the methodology that led to the choice (even if only to avoid it <g>, though I think it has at least some merit).


here are my first feelings: Actually, ribbons seem to be a kind of 'visual' contextual menus eg buttons dedicated to appropriate tasks in a given context. If it sounds good from a technocratic point of view, I'm afraid that users who need to 'recognize' an interface, are finally confused when all change because you have bolded a word :-)

Fortunately the level of granularity seems less fine. :)

True, the central premise is that they avoid the clutter and cryptic small icons of earlier toolbars by using larger, more descriptive labels. To accommodate the much-larger space requirements they employ progressive disclosure, showing only the set of tools available for a given set of tasks that make sense in the current context of the workflow.

From the videos and descriptions/screen shots I've seen (I don't buy MS products myself when I can avoid them), it seems this dynamic switching of controls in the Ribbon occurs only on major context shifts, like changing the view mode or adding graphics, rather than in response to small gestures like selecting text.

Even with that, admittedly there is a risk. Up there with progressive disclosure on the list of cardinal principles is also consistency, and a dynamic toolbar may hinder or at least slow the development of muscle memory in selecting controls.

I don't have measurements offhand for how one should appropriately weight consistency over progressive disclosure, but when I corresponded with Tog a while back on a related topic (the placement of dialog buttons, another story) he seemed to rank consistency very highly, even above natural reading-order, with regard to control layouts.


So, at first sight, a good idea but, from a cognitive psychology point of view :-) I'm not sure it's so good. In addition, I don't like software that claim every minute 'I'm clever' but I prefer software that make the user claim 'Finally I'm really good' :-)
 From a cognitive psychology point of view :-)
Sure you understand...

I believe so.  We've all suffered through Clippy. :)

For those of you who haven't been reading Jensen Harris' blog on the evolution of Office 12, he now has a video there of a presentation he did which summarizes the design and its evolution succinctly:

<http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/>

Dan Shafer first turned me on to that blog with a post he made here shortly after Neilsen wrote about it. I've been reading it since - thanks, Dan!

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