Re: Finding and sorting by diacriticals
* From: Ben Rubinstein * Subject: Re: Finding and sorting by diacriticals * Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 06:46:09 -0800
on 3/5/03 11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
> I wrote a HyperTalk handler to perform an offset function that's sensitive
> to both diacriticals and capitalization:
Out of interest, can you explain in what ways the 'caseSensitive' property
falls short in this regard?
I've had some problems with that property myself, but (without having tried
it) I would have expected that it would do what was required here. If we
can establish what it's not doing, perhaps we can press for some changes or
an additional function. I think this is a very common need.
Ben Rubinstein | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cognitive Applications Ltd | Phone: +44 (0)1273-821600 http://www.cogapp.com | Fax : +44 (0)1273-728866
Sort, Find, RawKeyDown ... / diacritical problems.
* From: Pierre * Subject: Sort, Find, RawKeyDown ... / diacritical problems. * Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 02:47:18 -0800
Hi all,
I couldn't find it in the Metacard Reference nor in the Transcript Language Dictionary of Revolution, but as a matter of fact the sort command is also caseSensitive. Meaning, if the caseSensitive is set to true the sort order may vary, but not always in a consistent way.
A little investigation in the way the sort order varies, can give a clue about how the sort algorithm was conceived and when to use it or not.
For example:
the string
"a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,ä,å,à,ã,â,á,æ,Ä,Å,À,Ã, ,Á,Æ"
sort in rev 1.1.1 gives
"a,A,b,B,c,C,d,D,e,E,f,F,g,G,h,H,i,I,j,J,k,K,l,L,á,Á,à,À,â,Â,ä,Ä,ã,Ã,å,Å ,æ,Æ"
caseSensitive sort in rev 1.1.1 gives
"A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,Ä,Å,á,à,â,ä,ã,å,Æ,æ,À,Ã ,Â,Á"
sort in mc 2.4.3 gives
"a,A,b,B,c,C,d,D,e,E,f,F,g,G,h,H,i,I,j,J,k,K,l,L,Ä,Å,á,à,â,ä,ã,å,Æ,æ,À,Ã ,Â,Á"
caseSensitive sort in mc 2.4.3 gives
"A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,Ä,Å,á,à,â,ä,ã,å,Æ,æ,À,Ã ,Â,Á"
international sort in rev 1.1.1 gives
"Æ,Á,Â,ã,Ã,à,À,å,Å,ä,Ä,æ,á,â,L,K,J,I,H,G,F,E,D,C,B,A,l,k,j,i,h,g,f,e,d,c ,b,a"
caseSensitive international sort in rev 1.1.1 gives
"Æ,Á,Â,Ã,À,Å,Ä,æ,á,â,ã,à,å,ä,L,K,J,I,H,G,F,E,D,C,B,A,l,k,j,i,h,g,f,e,d,c ,b,a"
international sort in mc 2.4.3 gives
"a,A,á,Á,à,À,â,Â,ä,Ä,ã,Ã,å,Å,æ,Æ,b,B,c,C,d,D,e,E,f,F,g,G,h,H,i,I,j,J,k,K ,l,L"
caseSensitive international sort in mc 2.4.3 gives
"A,Á,À,Â,Ä,Ã,Å,a,á,à,â,ä,ã,å,Æ,æ,B,b,C,c,D,d,E,e,F,f,G,g,H,h,I,i,J,j,K,k ,L,l"
Often the build in sort order is not what we would like to see after a sort. So an idea for a little function emerges.
The example is made for comma delimited lists, but is easily adapted for other cases.
To make it work, take a button and make a custom property called SortOrder.
Put the desired sort order into it. Use the following format as this is easier to edit (the script will make one long string of it).
For example:
0123456789 AaÁáÀàÂâÄäÃãÅåÆæ Bb CcÇç Dd EeÉéÊêËëÈè Ff Gg Hh IiÍíÎîÏïÌì Jj Kk Ll Mm NnÑñ OoÓóÒòÔôÖöÕõØøŒœ Pp Qq Rr Ss Tt UuÜüÚúÙùÛû Vv Ww Xx YyŸÿ Zz
function ctnSort pTextToSort
get the SortOrder of me #### that is if the custom property is also in the same object as the script
repeat for each line kk in it
put kk after so
end repeat
set the caseSensitive to true #### important to make the offset function work correctly
repeat for each item ii in pTextToSort
repeat for each char cc in ii
put offset(cc,so) & space after tempVar
end repeat
delete last char of tempVar
put tempVar & "," & ii & cr after theSorter
put "" into tempVar
end repeat
sort lines of theSorter numeric by first item of each
repeat for each line ll in theSorter
put item 2 of ll & "," after theResult
end repeat
delete last char of theResult
return theResult
end ctnSort
By the way, if the caseSensitive is set to true the find command will find the right "Élephant" among "œuf,Elephant,Eléphant,Élephant,Éléphant,èléphant,Tigre,"
Have a nice night, WA
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