MySQL'a dual licensing has been the source of a lot of confusion for quite a long time, and what few notes can be found at their site about when their license requires a license doesn't help a great many people make an appropriate determination.

I've written them to get clarification on three specific usage scenarios that are not uncommon, and while their sales staff was quick to reply to my interest in possibly getting a license I've not heard back from them on whether it's actually needed in the scenarios I'm considering.


Here's an example of the confusion, from JoelOnSoftware:
<http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware5/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=155640&ixReplies=20>

This comment there tries to help sort it out:

   Most of the things mentioned here are irrelevant.
   Read http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing/commercial-license.html
   more specifically:

   "If you develop and distribute a commercial application and
   as part of utilizing your application, the end-user must
   download a copy of MySQL; for each derivative work, you (or,
   in some cases, your end-user) need a commercial license for
   the MySQL server and/or MySQL client libraries."

Unfortunately that URL no longer points to the material cited, so you have to wade through the links there to try to find guidance on how the license applies to a given use.

Here's a scenario I can't figure out: if I make a DB on my server using my own proprietary code running on top of MySQL, and I sell subscriptions to this proprietary system, do the "per seat" definitions for MySQL licensing apply to my customers as "seats" for my DB use? Still waiting to hear back from them on that.


It's too bad they don't make it simpler for folks to understand when it's necessary to purchase a license and how much it will cost. It's confusing for the market and no doubt they lose a great many sales based on the near-ubiquitous -- if erroneous -- presumption that it's always gratis. Free as in freedom != free as in beer. ;)


Ruslan, I couldn't find the original post you quoted. Where did this thread originate?

It would be ironic in a discussion of copyright protection to have material copied without permission from the author. ;)

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Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:

On 2/15/09 1:41 PM, "Thorsten Hohage" <thohage at genericobjects.de> wrote:

Hi Thorsten,

This is very interesting and I should say new info for me.

I believe many times on RB and Revolution list (especially) people express
point that they can use mySQL of their ISPs for free.

Info which you provide below changes things a lots.
I will CC this to REV list for info.


But mySQL is not totally free, even when used at an ISP! Many, many
customer of ISPs go in a big trap, because they used the offered mySQL
licence from the ISP for their commercial use what is in sense of  mySQL
legals not allowed.

Why you think so?

Because I read and discussed the given mySQL licence terms when
dealing with that issues (and I break them like anybody else :-))

The fact that mySQL is free for ISPs and they put them on their
servers does NOT mean everybody being a customer for such a package
can use it for free!

Of course e.g. when you're going to use let us say Joomla, then Joomla
is Open Source, too and AFAIK then your content will not be some kind
of "Open Content".

But when you develop a software using this hosted mySQL, then you must
decide PAY or Open Source it, and it doesn't matter if this is hosted
at your ISP or not.


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