I'll second Jim motion that because we have iRev now, doesn't meant that stacks on the web server accessed by CGI aren't still very powerful tools.

Like he says: instead of a mess of text files you might call as includes, or HTML templates as separate files, just push these all into a single project stack. Then, think of your CGI as a "front script"
or API you use from your iRev page.

It has the advantage that you can push back 80% of the content/code into the stack and dev that in the IDE instead of on the iRev page.

Then you just call it with a CGI and use a little POST or GET call in your iRev page to get your data.


here is really simple example. In this case I have a single function I want to call from a big stack

on the iRev page:

put url "http://www.himalayanacademy.com/cgi-bin/getRandomLexiconWord.cgi"; into tWordOfTheDay

getRandomLexiconWord.cgi reads:

#!/opt/web/bin/revolution -ui

on startup
        start using stack "../public_html/resources/lexicon/lexicon.rev"
        put getRandomWord() into buffer
          put "Content-Type: text/plain" & cr
  put "Content-Length:" && the length of buffer & cr & cr
  put buffer
end startup

so you could have quite a bit of code, content, custom props etc stored in a single "project" stack, then pull this via cgi into your iRev page.

and it's lightening fast too.

Other advantage: I can outsource "work" on the back end stack.. I send to an editor who uses a RunRev Player to open my stack, she can do edits, clean up text, make changes etc. and periodically, I just drop that stack back on the server and bingo, updated!

Happy New Year!

Sivakatirswami









Jim Ault wrote:
On-Rev allows both irev and cgi to work on the same web page or web query.
Mix and match depending on your combined environment.

For pure irev scripts, you could use either text files or sql.
In that case, you might want to factor another level or two to make coding simpler.

---- the following is probably more than you want to
        know at this moment
        so ignore it if you wish
Now we are a short distance from the power of
multidimensional arrays stored as a single text file,
then use arrayDecode(allTemplates.txt)

The irev script can call multiple Rev cgi (or PHP cgi) scripts that reside on any server.

I am building a stack to run as cgi where each card has a web page format template that includes HTML, CSS, javascript, php, and jquery. Beyond that, it will also build a usage database for tracking a multi-site network of pages. Each card has its own custom properties, does not need a forest of text files, and parsing is all done inside Rev code.
--- end of advanced ideas

PS I own but don't use Rapidweaver & Dreamweaver as they mostly create more anomalies and head scratching than they solve.

I do most all of my work in BBEdit (just like TextWrangler, same author), and use a very valuable tool - Firebug in FireFox

To do the On-Rev desktop backup, build a little scanner app that archives the most recent file in the local folder, if it has changed since the last backup one minute ago.

Have a good New Year's Eve !!

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On Dec 31, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

That is much less painful for sure, by an order of magnitude.
I didn't know that the iRev environment can save it self as a stack? Is that right? And then of course if it is true then the custom props is possible too then?

This is much easier. Thanks Jim

Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
[email protected]

iTunes Library Suite - libITS
Information and download can be found on this page:
http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html


On Dec 31, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Jim Ault wrote:

I use a much cleaner system for 'mashing up' code for HTML and javascript
Try a couple of these tips and see if the pain goes away.


--// a couple notes about browsers
 --// html honors both quote types, ignores extra spaces
 --// javascript honors both quote types

 --build the Rev string without ANY ampersands
 --use single, not double quotes
 get "  <a href='zhrefz' class='zclassz' rel='zrelz' title='ztitlez'>"
 put IT & "<img src='zsrcz/' alt='zaltz'/></a>  " into tImg
 --now do the replacements so they are easily visible/editable
 replace "zhrefz" with  "photos/test/" in tImg
 replace "zclassz" with "pirobox_gall" in tImg
 replace "zrelz" with    "lightbox" in tIm
 replace "ztitlez" with  "Best Photo" in tImg
 replace "zsrcz" with   "photos/test/" in tImg
 replace "zaltz" with    tSizeSpec in tImg
 --send to browser
 put tImg

 --the next level of factoring could be custom props
 --create an image link template
 get "  <a href='zhrefz' class='zclassz' rel='zrelz' title='ztitlez'>"
 get IT & "<img src='zsrcz/' alt='zaltz'/></a>  "
 set the cpImgLinkTmpl of this stack to IT
 save this stack
 --now use the image link template
 put the cpImgLinkTmpl of this stack into tImg
 replace "zhrefz" with  "photos/test/" in tImg
 replace "zclassz" with "pirobox_gall" in tImg
 replace "zrelz" with    "lightbox" in tIm
 replace "ztitlez" with  "Best Photo" in tImg
 replace "zsrcz" with   "photos/test/" in tImg
 replace "zaltz" with    tSizeSpec in tImg
 --send to browser
 put tImg

Hope this gives you some ideas.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas



On Dec 31, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

And NO ONE should ever have to look at something like this again, let alone have to type it: put "<a href=" & quote & "photos/test/" & L & quote && " class=" & quote & "pirobox_gall" & quote & && " rel=" & quote & "lightbox" & quote & && " title=" & quote & L & quote & "><img src=" & quote & "photos/test/" & L & quote & " alt=" & quote & L & quote && tSizeSpec & "/></a>" into tImg







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