On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
I really wonder about these much vaunted "standards" and how valuable they
really are.

Surely the only "standards" that are needed are:

The program works,

It doesn't leak credit card numbers like a sieve.

Actually, the deviation from standards for displaying info and media using web browsers is very costly. Most businesses pay dearly for web development for their brand or sales goals. The main reason is that I know that I can spend 20 hours designing the layout, flow, and content for a client, then at least another 10 hours getting it to look right on IE 6,7,8

You start with good practices in html, css, and javascript, then add quirksmode for older IE browsers, then bug fix mode for older IE browers, then move forward to non-quirksmode and bug fix mode in the modern IE browser versions.

Clients really don't like spending extra time and money for this, but it is necessary.
Using the JQuery javascript library for rendering pages helps a lot.
I usually quote an extra 50% for dealing with IE issues.

In recent years the extra hassle ramped up a notch when it became necessary to run a Vista machine in addition to XP. I don't do web design projects anymore because every project became too contorted to be satisfying and profitable.

Just my opinion, and that of several web designers I know personally. Most have moved on to other things.
This is definitely off topic for the Rev list, but on topic for On-Rev.


Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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