Richmond wrote:
On 06/14/2010 10:59 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Richmond, one sees no signs they are even working on this - and other
problems.  Are expressions of anger and impatience any less
productive than
compliant silence?  This is not an excusable way for a company to
behave!

Yes, anger on a publicly searchable list can be damaging, and as such
is less productive than other methods. Richmond is right: RR is doing
exactly what they need to be doing right now.

If you would like a more productive outlet, pony up for Enterprise.
One of the perks for that level of subscription is that you can join
the Improve list where you'll be able to participate in the process
that helps form the future of the product. The NDA info you'll receive
will also alleviate the silence you feel RR keeps.

I don't know of any other commercial software companies that announce
their intentions to the general public before a release is final.
Apple even fires people who mention what product they're working on next.


"pony up for Enterprise"

I am surprised to hear that very English phrase from 'tother side of the
pond . . .  :)

I wonder if it might not be an idea for RunRev to have sort of
membership thing, where folk
who cannot or won't 'pony up' for Enterprise can pay an annual fee to
take part in the Improve
list?

Yes: they can pay a fee to join the improve-rev list, and they get Enterprise bundled for free. :)

I agree with Jacque in her focus on productive outcomes:

If you don't like Rev then please recognize that the choice of using it is entirely your own. This is a big world chock full o' development tools. Shouldn't be hard to do as the rest of the world does: find one you like and use it.

If instead you actually like using Rev but find some aspects annoying and want to see them improved, consider how that may best be accomplished and then pursue that path.

I've found it useful to try to choose my words online as I would if the reader were across the dinner table from me. I wouldn't yell at my dinner guests, or call them names.

If there's something I need from someone, I do what I can to help them find what they need to accomplish it.

Being angry consumes energy that could be employed to solve problems.

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com
 revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv
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