Thank you Richard !
My standalone of "Exagofon" with English manual will be operational soon ! 
(Beta version)
René

Le 25 oct. 2010 à 15:36, Richard Gaskin a écrit :

> René Micout wrote:
> 
>> When I create a standalone, LiveCode make automatically an "About..." menu 
>> in the application menubar...
>> How can I pick this menu item ?
>> on menuPick theItem
>>      if theItem is "About..." then
>>      ...
>> end mousePick
>> don't work
> 
> The LiveCode engine makes it very easy to create menu sets that substantially 
> conform to the HIGs on supported platforms, but difficult to do anything 
> non-standard.
> 
> In most apps, there is a "Preferences..." it at the end of the Edit menu, and 
> an "About..." item at the end of the Help menu.
> 
> That is, for Windows and Linux - on OS X the "About..." item appears next to 
> that OS's unique application menu, and the "Preferences..." item is the 
> second entry in that menu.
> 
> To allow you to make one menu bar that works on all supported platforms, the 
> engine moves the last item from the Help menu (presumed to be "About...") and 
> the last item from the Edit menu (presumed to be "Preferences...") to their 
> appropriate place in the application menu on OS X; it leaves them in place 
> for other OSes.
> 
> While your item may be named "Preferences..." (with three periods), once 
> rendered by the OS it becomes rendered as "Preferences…" (with an ellipsis), 
> and is identified internally as the argument to the menuPick message as 
> simply "Preferences".   Oddly, this does not happen with the About item, 
> which is identified in the menuPick argument as you had typed it.
> 
> So in your menuPick handler for Help you'll want:
> 
> on menuPick pItem
>    case "About..."
>      answer "My Cool App"&cr& "Copyright 2010 by me"
>      break
>    case "Other Menu Items"
>      -- do stuff for those
>    break
>    end switch
> end menuPick
> 
> But in Edit you'll need:
> 
> on menuPick pItem
>  case "Preferences"  -- for OS X
>  case "Preferences..."  -- for everything else
>    -- do prefs stuff
>  break
>  end switch
> end menuPick
> 
> I tried to post a bug report on that, but got an error in Bugzilla. ;) I'll 
> try again later.
> 
> 
> IIRC the Rev IDE used to automatically write appropriate case statements for 
> items you build with its Menu Builder utility, but checking this just now it 
> seems it no longer does, writing only one generic menuPick handler with no 
> individual case statements in it, so you're on your own.
> 
> It's also worth noting that the current LiveCode IDE does not write the names 
> of the "About..." and "Preferences..." items with the trailing periods or 
> even an ellipsis, so while the engine will at least render the Prefs item 
> correctly on OS X it doesn't render About or Prefs correctly for other 
> platforms.
> 
> Perhaps someone who uses the LC IDE might consider flagging that as a bug.
> 
> Here I've found it simpler to just roll my own menu bar, copying it into 
> stacks and adjusting its items as needed.  Your mileage may vary; contents 
> may settle during shipping; items in mirror may be closer than they appear.
> 
> IMNSHO, most of the complaints about making menu bars in Rev would go away if 
> this small handful of inconsistencies was addressed.  The mechanism itself is 
> fairly robust and does a good job of automatically handling differences 
> between OSes, but is made to appear more complicated than it needs to be by 
> these anomalies.
> 
> --
> Richard Gaskin
> Fourth World
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