Brian and team:

Here at Kauai Aadheenam, (monastery) monks *DO* have Macs

(and a few PCs that we love to use (for accounting) to prove why we love our Macs)

I got the CD.. Congratulations on the outstanding work and the amazing port over to Revolution!

Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
Himalayan Academy Publications
at Kauai's Hindu Monastery
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.HimalayanAcademy.com,
www.HinduismToday.com
www.Gurudeva.org
www.Hindu.org

On Dec 9, 2003, at 2:37 PM, Brian Thomas wrote:

"Legendary Š almost defies description" was MacUser magazine's description of the original 1988 HyperCard classic, If Monks had Macs.

"If Monks had Windows -- they'd jump out of them!" was the reaction of the first programmer that I talked to about moving If Monks from Macs to Windows. That was in 1995 -- long before the Revolution.

Over the following decade I tried...

:: MacroMedia Director
(they built the Bob Dylan CD-ROM in director and you couldn't even do a simple find thru Dylan's lyrics!)


:: Quicktime Interactive -- HyperCard as a front end for Quicktime
   (vaporized)

:: OMO, Oracle Media Objects
(you couldn't build a sensuous believable world that linked interconnected stacks - our library has 24 volumes)


:: the beta of SuperCard for Windows
   (there was a reason it was never released)

:: mTropolis
(cool, but you can't build applications and it's been dead for many years)


And finally, MetaCard and Revolution. And, I have to say, after all I've been through, these programs do Windows well. What a joy it was to move files over to Windows time after time and know they were going to work perfectly. (I can't resist saying if only OS X had been that easy -- but I think it probably is that easy NOW. Windows had been conquered long before I started using MetaCard and now OS X will be that way for new users.)

So, 15 years later, the longest running project in the history of interactive media has arrived thanks to the MetaCard and Revolution teams, the beta testers ...

and the If Monks programmers:

:: RICHARD GASKIN of Fourth World Media Corporation helped tie most of the project together and developed two amazing applications. First, our unique threaded journaling application. (With our threaded journal you can shape the way you look at yourself and your world.) AND second, Sophie, our new e-book reader which you can learn more about and download from FourthWorld.com:

http://www.fourthworld.com/products/sophie/index.html

:: TUVIAH SNYDER moved the journal onto Revolution, developed a new game for us AND was invaluable as a MetaCard and then a Revolution employee helping us make the "MYST" like opening with its seamless integration of HyperCard and Quicktime work, well, seamlessly.

:: JEANNE DeVOTO programmed the way our giant images of the Tower of Babel scroll smoothly and elegantly across the screen AND served as technical coordinator for the conclusion of the project.

:: JACQUELINE LANDMAN GAY, during one of the many delays in the project, programmed many of the features she had developed for her own solitaire games into "Killing Time," the game that Tuviah helped me develop. Killing Time, is a solitaire game for monks. Now everyone can "kill time without injuring eternity" -- everyone can practice safe-solitaire."

:: SARAH REICHELT responded to a question addressed to this list a couple of weeks ago about how I could overcome issues with the long time it takes OS X to learn to associate files with their applications. I hired her to write the AppleScript she suggested and was able to ship on schedule.

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So, what is If Monks...?

A hearty stew of interactive books, games, art, music and more, you can find out more about If Monks had Macs here:

http://www.rivertext.com/

The only other thing I wish to say is that if anyone asks you, "Can Revolution do stylish innovative cross-platform CD-ROMs that include games and sophisticated intellectual tools?"

The answer is yes.

--
Brian

http://www.rivertext.com/

If Monks had Macs - the director's cut
is now shipping for Windows as well as Macs

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