Le 30 avr. 04, � 16:23, JKValdez a �crit :
I think all of the SQL dB posts ultimately are looking for a complete Rev solution. So does anyone have a *COMPLETE* IDE for making dB apps with Rev (something that resembles perhaps Filemaker or Access)? How about any tools or *most importantly* a full featured sample stack? Is anyone interested in teaming up on delivering this? I am willing to pay for these resources, but I need to determine the feasibility of making these front ends in Rev very soon, or I need to choose some other technology like Servoy.
JK,
I used Rev (and before that Metacard) as my main dev tool to build "n-tier" apps for years (CRM client-side front ends, server-side Web and CRM applications servers, binded to PostgreSQL, QTSS and so on, back-end servers, client/server managment tools (PostgreSQL pgdumps, QTSS movies updating, etc...).
Rev is the perfect tool to set-up, drive and manage those kind of tasks, even if other tools, alike Servoy, are doing that too, as specialized dedicated tools.
The main reason that pushed me to avoid the use of dedicated tools to drive and manage my "n-tier" apps (including the main J2EE frameworks, Servoy and others) has to do with the fact that Rev let me do in just one tool and one langage 95% of what i would have to code in using dozen of different frameworks instead.
Each new needed line of code i write in transcript will be reused in future apps and tasks for many and many times. If i try to do same in using the J2EE paradigm (as an example), i will have to spend 70% of my works in technical tasks (coding, frameworks set-up, unary testing, etc..) and 30% in about designing my apps to feet the customers needs...
In using Rev and Transcript, and, just because the "XTalk" paradigm key features are binded together to give to the apps designer the more suitable tools he need to never shut down in "only technical engineering tasks and troubles" and always staying able to "see, watch and build" the apps from a top headed point of view. Because Rev is, in the same time, an object-modeled, a message-driven framework and a very elegant langage, because Rev is builded on top of a micro-kernel engine, bindable in both graphical and console modes to stacks, standalones and scripts, this tools is the onest to let us, in using Transcript, build drived events commands sent, in client/server mode, not to an interpreter, not to a compiler but, just, to the Revolution microkernel engine....
It's always, in using Rev, a way to build a solution witch will run as fast as any C/C++ compiled app does (see benchmarks of the competitions what are happening some times on the lists (archives) against tools like Pascal, C/C++, RealBasic, Shell driven apps. About comparing the Rev engine to the JVM 1.4.2, Rev 2.1.2 is, at least, running 600% faster than the JVM in about TCP/IP sockets driven client/server solutions (deamons) under the Linux x86 platform. As you right expect, it can make a big difference in about all of the environmental compartiments the Rev app is interacting with (hardware, databases accesses, security including proxying apps, etc...).
One more word : Rev is the best tool i ever seen as able to run my apps in test mode, along i'm developping and debugging them. Because its native "client/server" architecture (IDE framework + console-mode sockets driven events model + microkernel engine), i can, in the same time, have the app (i'm right now coding) play back an rtsp streamed movie and the script editor opened to code and debug an updated issue of the code witch handle, right now, the movie playback...
Rev let us spend 70% of our working time in designing our apps and, for me, the unintersting part of the job is at 0%, just because when we are spending the needed 30% of time in writing the code, the pleasure is to write the more compact, secure and elegant we can ;)
To the end, Rev is, at least, one of the bests tools, and perhaps the best one, that give us the liberty to become, day after day, best apps designer's and xtreme programming experts.
Hope this helps
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