[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear fellow RR developpers...
I just noticed 4 days ago that a minute stack was really slow.
Tracking it down wasn't much help because the message watcher threw me off thinking the problem was the TableManager (sorry Jan)... Besides the fact that the message watcher is nearly useless, it throws in all the RR's messages to confuse you and doesn't tell you where the message came from... The more stacks
or windows (scritp editors for ex.) you open, the more messages you
get to confuse you...
The Rev Message Watcher "throws in all the RR's messages" not to confuse you, but to allow you to watch them. That's where its name comes from. The tool has no way to determine which subset of messages you're interested in.
If you want to see only native system messages try UmbrellaMan (in RevNet). It also shows the target and provides a means of selecting only the messages you want to watch. It's free: if it doesn't work as you'd like please don't flame me.
Anyway, my stack was really slow all the time and the problem was
untraceable... Then I noticed that a message suspendstack was
saving the stack at each suspendstack... Nothing wrong there
except that whenever I went to the revprops or revtools or revmenu palette, my stack would get a suspendstack event!!!!!!!!!!
Since RR is ultra slow, ultra-cpu-hog, I couldn't be get more and
more irritated... On a 2.8 MHz P4 512MBs, this is a shame, and a real bummer for productivity...
Why would a 10 K stack take 5 seconds to save and hog your CPU at 55 % (or 99% hog on a 1.8MHz P4...)?
IS THAT NORMAL?
This is NOT normal behavior and I believe we are all affected!
It seems you answered your own question.
Agreed, there is no auto-save option in prefs, so if the IDE is auto-saving it's an issue to post to Bugzilla.
But I haven't seen this behavior, so'm not sure it is. Sure you don't have an auto-saving plugin doing that for you?
Any solutions or suggestions to avoid this kind of IDE interference?
Check your plugins.
The message watcher is also showing lots of events that dont
seem pertinent to the environment/moment - lots of reveditscript
messages (a script window is opened) but im not editing the script currently.
I believe that's a pending message sent at a regular interval to poll for command-option in order to allow script access with the browse tool.
There were two predominant standards in circulation at the time the IDE was crafted: SuperCard's, in which you hold down the Command and Option keys while hovering over and object, and Command-Option-click to emulate HyperCard's method.
The SuperCard method was chosen, but because of the nature of the available system messages choosing that method requires a polling system the HyperCard method would not.
I believe this has been submitted to Bugzilla as a feature request for an option to choose between those two methods.
> Incidentally this is the @%)*@&#)%*( message I cannot
use in the plug-ins to use my own script editor which despite all my bug reporting is still light years ahead of RR's (not to mention an improved message and variable watcher that really work in MC for years now)
Obviously RR's plug-ins are irrelevant and futile since they haven't been fixed for years...
You've mentioned this before, but you've either entered the bug report in Bugzilla or you haven't. If you have you can track its progress through Bugzilla's interface. If you haven't there's little point in bringing it up in any other venue. In either case I'm unclear what you expect the readers of this list to do for you on that one.
The only plugin I've seen issues with is the example plugin, but since it's only an example it's never been a show-stopper for me, nor has it affected any of the other plugins I use.
What is really frustrating is that all these messages interfere with normal stack operations - suspendstack in the occurence...
My question is whether there is a way to STOP them and have a minimum environment like MC
Er, use MC?
It has a plugin system now, and it uses only native system messages so the other issues you've had should not be evident there.
- No offense meant - sorry for the lack of professional wording....
PS: when will this subscription list adhere to standards and strip the CC's and other non-subscription list emails? Do you like SPAM, and mis-forwards to the wrong persons? I suppose it's normal... ;)
Dude, please. If you have a question about the list format contact the listmom, Heather.
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