I, too, have used HyperTalk extensively for many years, in many projects, though I am not a professional or trained programmer, by any means. I also have had my difficulties with the Rev docs, for all the reasons others have put forward here. However, I finally stumped up for the printed docs, and started simply browsing through them, pretty much at random. It's been a revelation! I've discovered all sorts of things I didn't know I could do, and all sorts of better ways of doing things I knew I could do. As a result, I've begun to be able to make better use of the online docs when actually working, since I have a much better idea of where to look, because I have a better idea of the breadth of possibilities in Rev.

I know that the printed docs are the same as the online docs, but the ability to simply flick through and see what catches the eye has made all the difference for me. Perhaps this has to do with being someone who learns best by simply jumping in, screwing things up and then gradually working out what I'm doing wrong.

My opinion of the docs now is that they are generally very clear and helpful, though not quite up to the standards of the great Winkler and Kamins HyperTalk 2.0 language reference, where every keyword, command, constant and function was beautifully explained with a complete handler demonstrating it's use...though given the far greater scope of Rev., this may not be possible, since some things are the subject of whole books themselves...eg, RegEx, XML, TCP/IP etc.

So as someone who has struggled with the docs, I can heartily recommend the printed versions, as well as monitoring this list, which regularly throws up gems from the kind generosity of it's many contributors, including those who simply ask questions.

Cheers,

Mark Smith

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