I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, Frank. On Aug 7, 2004, at 9:18 PM, Frank Leahy wrote:
On Aug 7, 2004, at 11:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Java's xplat support is, from all accounts and limited personal experience, a nightmare and a joke. Microsoft NEVER produced an xplat tool that supported the Mac as far as I know. Although RB lays some claim to doing xplat stuff right, from what I gather lurking on their message boards and reading developer web pages, it's not all it's cracked up to be.
From: Dan Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is Rev too "Mac focused"? To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
And therein lies the rub.
I believe it is literally impossible to create an xplat dev tool that lets the developer call native system APIs. As an OS X guy, I would much rather find xplat ways of accomplishing things that would otherwise cause me to have to learn and deal with an underlying OS.
I'm on a 56K modem and haven't caught up with all of the previous discussion, but I couldn't pass up responding to this one:
1. It is not only possible, but actually not all that hard, to create hooks to native platform APIs on a cross-platform tool. Java does it with JNI. Microsoft did it with their version of JNI (RNI?) that Sun had such a stink about and sued them over. RealBasic does it. What's to stop RunRev doing it? Once you decide how to pass parameters, the rest is easy.
I can't comment on the ease of doing it, just observe that it's been tried a lot and never, as far as I know, successfully. My deepest experience was with Smalltalk, which certainly didn't do it but came closer than anything else I've seen.
2. Neither adding hooks for native platform APIs, nor adding an alternate C-like syntax (as Director did) would cause the sky to fall. In fact both of these things would both make RunRev vastly more accessible and to, and usable by, the overwhelming majority of developers writing software today.Which begs my point: I do not believe that RR has ANY shot at converting professional Windows developers. Period. Doesn't matter what they do.
-- Frank Leahy
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