Troy Rollins wrote:
It seems that I'm being backed into a corner. OK. Here we go. Remember, you dragged it out of me.
Sorry you feel that way, I'm just asking questions...
Yes. Easily. With mind-blowing speed. Nothing to do with snapshots. Pure image compositing with alpha, additional masks, ink types, and much more. Oh, 4 images...? How about 40? 400? in milliseconds. Sum the alphas and all. It is no big thing. (Terry GetPixel and SetPixel are relatively slow... check out copyPixels()
Very cool.
Lastly, could you do all of this in 2 weeks?
Oh yes. Other than the DPI thing, I would seriously doubt it would take that much time, probably half that. Trust me, the image handling is THAT MUCH BETTER. To the point where I can't see what the big deal is. Compositing the images and summing the alpha? It is one line of code per image.
Good to know. I wish it was that easy in RR.
If so, I'm just wondering why I don't see more real 'apps' written in Director? In fact, I know of no commercial apps written in Director, though I can't say I've looked all that hard ;-).
Compared to the hordes written in Revolution you mean? Let's face it, there have been hundreds of commercial apps written in Director. Though, given the admitted multimedia bent to them, MOST of them are educational and activity CD ROMS for kids. But they are on the shelves of every computer store in the world as we speak. How many Rev apps are?
Troy, I'm talking Applications, not multimedia projects. Heck, at Human Code we created tons of award winning multimedia/game CD's using Director-- and put them on plenty of store shelves, for folks like Discovery Channel, Disney, Hasbro and others. I know *multimedia* works in Director.
Seriously, can you point me to a couple of commercial 'applications' built in Director? Especially image editing desktop applications. I'd really like to take a look at them, as I'm sure they'd offer me new insights regarding image editting.
Frankly, considering Director has an installed base at least an order of magnitude larger than Revolution, I would expect there to be some commercial apps available (not multimedia apps). Seems to me, there should be a number of image editors available with all of that power. I tried searching the Director forum, but couldn't find any...perhaps I used the wrong search terms.
There was this one really cool Director app, I forget the name, but it built CD covers and graphic design layouts automatically. Unfortunately there was no way to save it, but it was really, really inspiring. I think it was called 'nextGen' or something like that, can't remember. Perhaps you saw it?
I can point you to commercial apps written in Rev, (including yours), but I assume you know what/who they are. You of course chose to write your latest app in Rev rather than RB or Director. Perhaps the basis for that choice could lend some valuable perspective to this discussion.
In anycase, I would say if Director can do all of this, then hurray for Director:-), but it still doesn't diminish the serious imaging capabilities of RR.IMO it does. Both REALbasic and Director have MUCH better imaging capabilities than Rev. VASTLY. Apparently, I am the only one in the "conversation" with experience and familiarity (and who owns and uses the current version of) all three.
Troy, perhaps you can be more specific rather than 'VASTLY'? It might help to define 'areas of improvement' for Rev and it's engine capabilities. Certainly, anti-aliased graphics are a place to start.
I have yet to find an imaging task which I want to do which can't be done in Revolution, though I'm certain there are some. I've created a program ImageGadget
<http://www.altuit.com/webs/hemingway/HemTools/ImageGadget.htm>
which allows me to build banners by importing and layering images and type, using custom alpha effects. I've created screen capture apps and ButtonGadget. I'm just looking for similar apps written in Director or RB.
Just so I'm clear, I'm not attacking Director's image handling capabilities, in fact you've identified some things it does very well. I am just pointing out Revolution has some fine tools itself for building image editting apps.
Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge of the other products. It's always good to know what other products can do, as it helps us understand where we can 'get better.' I think conversations like this are helpful for us all.
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