On 11/19/04 5:41 PM, Timothy Miller wrote:
Howdy,
I've been a hyperCard user since before some subscribers here were born. This is my maiden message on this forum. Let's see how many people I can irritate ;-)
I, for one, am delighted to see you here. Welcome.
On DoMenu... and Set the top of bg field "foo" to 999 seemed to be the main problems. These things shouldn't be hard to fix. I'll have to figure out how to write a proper script to set the top of bg field foo...
That should work without any changes; there must be something else going on. The HC syntax is supported as-is.
"DoMenu" commands don't work -- that's part of the compromise we make for the amazing cross-platform capability. Menus are just buttons; all you need to do to convert your existing menu items is to move the relevant doMenu commands directly into the button script itself. However, you do have to create the menu bar first so that you can script it. You use the Menu Builder (in the Tools menu) to do that.
If you haven't already seen it, you might be interested in the HC-to-Rev conversion tutorial, which walks you through the process of creating menu bars (among other things):
<http://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/>
OTOH... My native hyperCard popUp buttons didn't display right. When I opened up the hood, so to speak, I was amazed and overwhelmed by the huge number of ways I could configure the buttons. Same reaction when I looked at how to set field attributes. I'll figure out how to make them display right, by trial and error, probably. The documentation must be overwhelming, also.
Some people will love all the new features. Computer professionals, mostly, I'd guess. I'm kind of disappointed. Revolution is a Space Shuttle, and all I need is a hang glider. That's why HC was such a good thing for me in the first place. Why can't we have Revolution Lite, for morons like me? Native hyperCard 2.4 does everything I need, and much, much more, except for a Reports add-on. Some of the HC externals are handy, but I could get along without them. I gotta life, a family and a profession. Learning massively complex new applications is not my idea of a hobby!
There's a learning curve for sure, but you really don't need to learn much more than you already know, and you can safely ignore a lot of the IDE until you need it. But it doesn't take too long to get used to the differences and with your HC background you won't have any problems that last very long. While there are lots more options in Revolution than there are in HyperCard, the two really major hurdles for a HC user to get over are background behaviors and menus. The tutorial goes through all that.
For other sources of info (besides this list, which is excellent): RevOnline is full of information and tutorials. You might also want to read some of the items under the "Topics" menu in the Help menu. Another place to find info is in the main Documentation window -- click on either the Objects button or the FAQ button for information about things like the different button properties and styles, how the hierarchy works, etc.
This is one more incentive to stick with OS 9 or classic mode and hyperCard for another year. I wonder how long I can make this last?
To be honest, I bet you won't bother. It will take you a couple of weeks to get over the hump and then you won't look back very often. The capabilities of Revolution are astounding; once you start using them it is hard to give them up. Just wait until the first time you open one of your stacks on a PC. ;)
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