Frank Leahy wrote:


I think the Windows menu bar should be a separate object in the window, that is not attached to the "content" area. This would mean that a window was comprised of the window titlebar (on Mac and PC), the window menu bar (on PC only), and the window content area (on Mac and PC).

The current hidden group implementation is fraught with problems. For example, I want to change the font to something larger than the default, but I don't dare for fear of doing something that will never be correctable.


Frank,

I'm glad the Windows menu bar is *not* separate. I want to be able to have the utmost in flexibility with my menu designs so that I can make a menu with other stuff on the same level as in:

www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/trash/trash.htm

Notice, in the image above, I *have* changed the fontsize of the menuGrp with no problems whatsoever in the resizing. In fact, on the mac, the window looks *identical* with the exception the menuBar is (of course) on the top of the screen - but there is no window size difference.

On the Mac, it is expected one should do things a certain way, but this is not so on Windows- see the menubar feature in the latest version of MS MediaPlayer for instance.

I wish the menu system to stay how it is, but hope there are better examples and documentation on how to resolve different cross-platform problems.

best,

Chipp
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