Chipp Walters wrote:
Also, I'd consider uninstalling Devolution if you can and then try again. Richard's an incredible programmer (thorough and very picky), and he programmed all of Devolution inside the Metacard IDE, not the Revolution IDE. He doesn't spend as much time in the Rev IDE as MC, so I would assume Devolution probably hasn't logged as many hours inside Rev as MC either. If, in fact there is an obscure conflict, I expect it would be Revolution's IDE doing something *not expected* rather than Richard's code having a problem.

That's very kind, but not always true. ;)

But, as a last resort, removing all plugins is always a good idea (including mine as well).

Ordinarily that would be optimal: pull plugins to cut down the potential solution space, putting them back in batches if the problem went away with them removed (just as with extensions conflicts in Mac Classic).


But if I read his post correctly, he has a stack named "33" -- most everyone's tools choke on stacks named with only numerals, since attempting to address them by shot name is also a valid reference by number, but likely to a different stack.

His post mentions that the Rev IDE doesn't even show it at all. So even without potentially wonky plugins (and it's true I spend relatively little time in the Rev IDE) the situation cannot improve.

Try it: name a substack "33" and play around with the IDE. Strange things happen. Here I see blank entries in the Exec Err dialog pop up a lot, esp. when I select File->Quit.

This has come up here before, in Dec. '03: <http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-December/027697.html>.

Here's the repair script from that post:

on mouseup
   put "MyMainStackName" into tMainStack  --< your main stack name
   get the substacks of stack tMainStack
   repeat with i = 1 to the number of lines of it
      if the short name of stack i of stack tMainStack is a number then
         set the name of stack i of stack tMainStack to (i&"xxxx")
      end if
   end repeat
end mouseup

The trick to that is being very explicit about referring to the substack by including its mainstack in the descriptor ("stack <substackname> of stack <mainstackName>"). Referring to stacks by number is rarely done (I'm not even sure what the rules are -- order of loading?), and since the engine can only have one stack in memory with a given name at a time there's usually no need to refer to them by anything other than their name -- except in this case in which the name is also an integer. :)

So that script uses a very explicit substack descriptor to prepend an alphabetic character to the name, and once that's done all future references to it by short name alone will work fine.

But even better than repair is prevention, so I just entered a feature request in Bugzilla to have the IDE prevent purely numeric strings when naming stacks:
<http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2582>


I've never namd any object with an integer only because some xTalk book or snother I read a decade ago told me not to. But with a minor tweak to the IDE we can cut people's required reading down by ten years. :)

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 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Media Corporation
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