I can't use tiger until I completely re-write all my HyperCard stuff in Rev as Tiger breaks HyperCard and especially nine-to-five reports. Apparently Tiger doesn't like classic either.
Did the tiger update to 4.1 solve any of your tiger weirdness issues? On 5/23/05 9:56 AM, "Lars Brehmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy again! > > I have made some progress in understanding the weirdness in Tiger > with stacks using windowShape. Maybe someone can use what I've found > to actually figure this one out. > > Some of you may recall this from about 2 days after Tiger was > released. Certain windowShapes don't display properly on machines > running Tiger. Klaus, Gordy and Sarah have confirmed this and Gordy > came up with a workaround that was a good start. I've been fooling > around with this again for the last 2 days and made an interesting > discovery that might help one of you real pros get to the bottom of > this. > > To recap the problem. Stacks using a windowShape that has a sort of > semi-circular protrusion on the bottom get a weird shadow when using > rev or my standalone running Tiger. Also a windowShape that is > nothing more than a rectangle with slightly rounded corners had a > different strange appearance, but only in some cases. > > As Klaus knows, I experimented for hours and found that the rectangle > with rounded corners displays fine in Tiger, but ONLY if the width of > the stack is 698 pixels of less (!!?!??!) Now, I'm no pro, but I > think I know enough consider this to be bizarre! What can the > significance of 698 pixels possibly be? Also, Gordy found a > workaround that I am using - before I had the different window > background images in a separate stack with all my graphics for button > icons, etc, and in the stack backgrounds a button with the image as > its icon, and the windowShape set to the image ID. These images were > in most cases png24's with transparency, created in Photoshop > elements. Klaus pointed out that windowshape in rev theoretically > only supports 2 bit masks, so I recreated the exact shapes with black > gif's, but these didn't work either. Gordy found that if you have > both the gif and the png in the stack background and set the shape to > the gif, it works (almost). > > Here's the interesting catch/clue. I copied my standalone to my > other machine running Panther - everything fine. I did a clean > install of Tiger, copied the app over again and the strangeness was > back. Then I installed Runrev on the machine, restarted and copied > the app over again and the problem was gone. So for now the question > is what is it about Runrev and Tiger that effects a standalone made > with Runrev even when Runrev is not running? The first clue to this > "intertwining" between Rev and Tiger came when I noticed at one point > that if I booted my machine and opened my standalone, the weirdness > was there, but if after booting I opend the Stack in the standalone > package in Rev first, then closed rev and opened the standalone the > weirdnes was gone! I mean shouldn't a standalone be able to "stand > alone?" I certainly can't expect somebody who has Tiger and wants to > use my app to buy Rev just to get it to display properly, right? > There is something about the relationship between Rev and Tiger that > is different from between Rev and Panther and I hope one of you out > there might just say Ah Hah! Elementary! It's....... > > When I first posted this (before lots of experimentation and with > fewer concrete clues) only Sarah, Gordy and Klaus responded (big > thanks again!). By now I hope a lot more of you are using Tiger and > maybe found some other little problems and found solutions that might > have some bearing on this one :-) > > And one other oddity in Tiger. When my standalone launches, certain > stacks and substacks are opened invisibly while the splash screen is > visible, and then shown when the splash screen disappears. This > always caused some flicker, even using lockScreen, until I followed > a suggestion from the list to open the stacks > "offscreen" (-5000,-5000) and then set the location to somewhere > onscreen. Worked like a charm with a tiny Tiger-related problem. The > first time I lauch my standalone after booting the machine, those > stacks appear onscreen in the upper left corner and then switch to > their end locations. On subsequent launches they show up flicker > free at their proper locations. Any ideas on this one? > > Otherwise Tiger has been an absolute dream for everything I do ;-) > > Cheers again! > > Lars > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > | | | )_) )_) )_) )___))___))___)\ )____)____)_____)\\ _____|____|____|____\\\__ -------\ /--------- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ 24 hour cell: (787) 378-6190 fax: (787) 809-8426 Blue Water Maritime P.O. Box 91 Puerto Real, PR 00740 _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list [email protected] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
