I'll give you another one. Ten minutes ago I made a new group, then
I made a group of this group plus a table field I have had around for
weeks. As soon as I hit the group button, the table field
disappeared. I looked all over for it... no dice. I looked in the
app browser... totally gone (my new group was there though. Only
thing to do was revert. Since I recalled this happening to me
before, I decided I could live without the extra group and put in a
few more lines of code instead. The IDE bites me every hour or so
since I began working with it regularly a couple of months ago --and
I am just doing simple things (I don't know how to do the really
complicated stuff that I might expect has less use and testing). It
just does not seem right to bite the hand that feeds you. I hope
Kevin's promise of an improved IDE soon will come true. I hate
getting poked in the eye several times a day.
Dennis
On Jun 4, 2005, at 9:55 PM, Jon wrote:
Dennis:
"I think the IDE should ask if you want to apply before running
the script again, or always apply when leaving the window focus"
I agree totally.
"I like to leave the script I am debugging/improving open with the
script running so I can quickly try different things with nary a
mouse click. You learn about "apply" very quickly in that case. "
I gave up on this when the IDE started to spontaneously just
disappear when I tried to click the Files menu. I HAVE to save to
disk, because I don't trust the IDE as far as I can throw it.
Sigh.
Jon
Dennis Brown wrote:
On Jun 4, 2005, at 2:12 PM, Jon wrote:
Dennis:
You said "lots of cracks in the IDE". I'd have to agree.
I've given up on saving scripts, and now only delete/kill the
script editors. That way I'm SURE to see the error messages.
Far too often I have "saved" a script and the save did not take,
with no error window visible. Too bad window visibility is
handled correctly during a script editor kill, but not when
saving a script. It can't be that hard to do the latter
correctly if the former is correct.
Jon,
Sounds like you were saving the script, before Applying it. I
got caught a few times on that also. I am in the habit of
hitting the enter key after editing a script to apply it now.
Otherwise, the script says what you edited, but it executes what
was last applied before your last edits. I don't like this way
of doing it, I think the IDE should ask if you want to apply
before running the script again, or always apply when leaving the
window focus, and having a proper unlimited undo for at least the
text editing of a script -- that can't be that hard to do.
I like to leave the script I am debugging/improving open with the
script running so I can quickly try different things with nary a
mouse click. You learn about "apply" very quickly in that case.
Dennis
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