John,
Of course you realize that if the = assignment operator was allowed
in Transcript "put" would all but disappear from scripts. Who wants
to type putinto vs =. Put would go the way of button vs btn. I find
myself reversing my opinion on this one. "=" would make a nice
shorthand notation. I was just concerned that the syntax would be
ambiguous to people or compiler. If not, then why not have more
compact scripts that are just as readable --just fix all the stupid
little bugs before spending more than a day on this.
Dennis
On Jun 22, 2005, at 11:47 PM, John Vokey wrote:
It is fascinating to note that in R (GNU's S) the operator evolved
from ``<-'' to ``='' despite the ambiguity of the latter (R has
both assignment operators (<- and ->), but still simple ``='' won
out. Why? Well, as with the letter ``e'' in English, nobody wants
to type 2 characters for the most common operation of assignment;
make the rarer cases clumsy, not the most common; hence ``=='' for
``is equal to (logical)''. I (tried to, anyway) taught Pascal for
years; the two most common complaints were, in order, the
assignment operator (i.e., ``:= is just stupid''), and ``that
stupid semi-colon''. Often pristine syntax has to take a back-seat
to expedience.
OTH, allowing ``a=4'' as a shorthand for ``put 4 into a'' harms
nobody, and meets with the expediency criterion; just don't require
it. Similarly, no Basic compiler or interpreter ever had any
problem discriminating logical statements from assignments, nor did
programmers; it was a false purity that Pascal was promoting.
Indeed, we exploited it: a=b*(c=2)+d*(c<>2), which to any Basic
programmer (except those in which false meant -1, but simple
accommodations in code fixed that), transparently means: a is
assigned the value of b given c has the value of 2, otherwise, a is
assigned the value of d.
On 22-Jun-05, at 4:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yep
On Jun 22, 2005, at 8:01 AM, Jon wrote:
Dan Shafer wrote:
(I always found the whole ==, +=, :=, == syntax mess pretty ugly.
I love the elegance of put 32 into x.)
Elegance, verbosity. Poe-tay-toe, poe-tah-toe...
- JRV
--
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those who don't
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