It sounds to me as if Tom, coming from HC and SC, found some things to be "natural", while I, coming from the UCSD Pascal P-System Advanced System Editor (pre-dates the IBM PC entirely), and then, with lots of grumbling, Delphi, find it not-so-natural.

I've heard lots of defenders for the current editor, and lots of people saying "don't change it", but I've not heard many people with actual experience with both the VB and Delphi editors AND Rev who come down on the side of the Rev editor. Maybe it's been said and I've not noticed.

Tom: have you actually USED some of the other UIs? I may be wrong: you (and others) may be experienced in these UIs. But, if not, perhaps you might use them before you reject the ideas I've been promoting (prompted by Bob's original (and much more tactful) emails.

I've written an auto-indent editor. I know how difficult it is to get it to be easy to use. The kinds of behaviors I'm seeing in the Rev editor are EXACTLY like the kinds of behavior I saw in my editor before I spent weeks fine-tuning it.

Jon


Thomas McGrath III wrote:

I don't know Jacqueline, I found it right away since I wanted to become proficient with Rev and naturally looked up the shortcuts.

tab seemed natural to me coming from SC and HC before that.

Tom

On Jun 29, 2005, at 12:06 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 6/28/05 5:54 PM, Jon wrote:

> And, BTW, I NEVER would have guessed that the <tab> key did ANYTHING
> other than enter <tab> characters into the text.  This is a great
> example of a totally bizarre UI that you folks have become so used to
> that you can't see the strangeness of it.

Not an excuse, but an explanation: HyperCard started this convention 20 years ago. SuperCard took it up to be compatible and continued it. When MetaCard came along, it too adopted the same tab-key behavior. Revolution continues the long tradition. So, there have been four x-talk IDEs that use this convention spanning many years. And that's why.

In Revolution, it is mentioned in the Help menu -> Quick Reference Guides -> Shortcut Reference. I admit this isn't easy to find.


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