Hi Timothy,

Le 8 juil. 05 à 23:11, Timothy Miller a écrit :

I'm not thrilled by the prospect of trying to isolate the problem

But it's the only way to solve the issue.
I can't tell you how many times I have created a *new* stack with *new* objects and the portion of code which made problems in another stack. I can't tell you how many times I have found by this way that the problem was elsewhere :-)

Best Regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.


I am sympathetic, Eric. If it's me and not Rev, I want to know it. If it's a Rev bug, I'm now a Rev loyalist, so I want Rev to know it, and if they don't have the resources to isolate it, I'm willing to help, up to a point.

It would help if I could get the damned debugger to work. Could you toss me a clue? It sure doesn't act like the hyperCard debugger.

It works fine on, for example, a simple mouseUp script in a simple button. However, if the button sends a message to a handler in a stack script (for instance), which then sends another message to another handler, nested or not, the debugger won't follow along. "Script debug mode" is definitely turned on. Step Into, etc., are absent and/or dimmed out, typically. Sometimes, I can see the script window open, several windows back, but I can't get to it until the script is done executing. I've tried setting multiple breakpoints in each handler, tried setting breakpoints by script. The script rolls right past them.

The instructions say, "The breakpoint command has no effect unless the stack is running in the Revolution development environment." I'm using DreamCard. Does DreamCard count as the "revolution development environment?"

Once again, I tried to read the instructions but they did not tell me what I need to know. I consulted Dan's book, too. Most of it seems intended for a less experienced user. Yet I am more or less a novice myself.

If I must continually discover how Rev works by trial and error, because of inadequate documentation, 10,000 silent Rev users are silently giving up. Rev doesn't need that. For heaven's sake! It's advertised as a product that is easy for people like me to use. It isn't. It's hard.

It would be easy for me to use IF the documentation would give me a concise explanation of some item when I needed concise, and a detailed explanation when I needed detailed, abundant examples when I needed them, and so on. I hope that comes along pretty soon.


Best regards from California's Big Central Valley,


Tim
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