I've not only downloaded the D&M suite, I've paid the current (half-
price!) fee for it, and I'm looking forward to the actual release.
It's obviously an excellent and massive project. In this pre-release
state, it has felt less stable to me than I like *for a working
environment* (that is, for software I need to be able NOT to think
about while I'm thinking about my own). But it's pre-release.
Nobody's pre-release software is stable. (To say, Certainly not mine,
would be a ludicrous understatement.)
I was just appreciating how smoothly devolution slid into my
workflow, if I have a workflow, which I often doubt.
Charles
On Aug 24, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Charles Hartman wrote:
(off-list)
Richard,
This is terrific -- I just downloaded it & used it for ten
minutes and I'm already hooked. Frankly, it seems much more
useful (and far less crash-prone) than the Daniels & Mara suite.
This was apparently intended for private email, but as long as it
was posted publicly I feel I should offer some feedback on Jerry
Daniels' excellent Rev tools:
In addition to being one of the nicest and most sincerely helpful
people I've ever met (maybe second only to Ken Ray, and that's
saying a lot as Ken has more integrity in one finger than most of
us hope to build over a lifetime), Jerry Daniels is also one of the
smartest and most experienced.
If there's any reason why devolution may appear less buggy (which I
doubt, if you play with it long enough <g>) it's only because:
a) The Daniels and Mara tools are so much more feature-rich than
devolution.
I come from a MetaCard background, with an eye for the spartan,
and devolution is merely a set of conveniences that myself and
my clients use to work a little faster. The D&M tools are much
more ambitious, and as the old saw goes, more code will mean
more bugs, at least in a first release.
b) devolution is much older than the D&M tools.
Jerry's toolkit is a fairly recent release, so we can expect it
to have a few more bugs than it will in v2.0. That's just how
software goes in spite of the best of efforts. devolution has
been in use for almost half a decade in about a dozen shops,
and while I update its components every few weeks while I'm
working, they've been pounded on a lot and have been through
multiple iterations. I have no doubt the D&M tools will be
among the most rock-solid wares in the Rev world in just another
release or two -- they're pretty great right now.
If you haven't played with the D&M tools you should check 'em out:
<http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/>
There's some very inventive thinking there, and lots of good utility.
I hope to see an article about Jerry's tools at revJournal soon...
--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Media Corporation
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