On 10 Sep 2005, at 08:37, Richard Gaskin wrote:

I'm making a specialized drawing tool, and I need to know when the mouse is clicked outside of any control while the pointer tool is active -- here's my setup:

The card has a group which is used as the drawing region. I also have another group which is used for tools, and the cantSelect of those tool buttons is set to true in order to have them behave like the browse tool when the pointer tool is active.

Some of the objects in my drawing region group are selectable as normal, and others have their cantSelect set to true as they're mostly managed by script in response to things the user does with the selectable objects.

When the user clicks on one of these non-selectable objects I change its appearance to indicate that it's selected.

Now here's the challenge: When the user clicks off of any control I need notification so I can change the appearance of those objects.

We get this behavior for free with normally selectable objects: you click on it and it's selected, you click off of it and it's deselected.

But in order to manage my non-selectable objects, I need to know when the mouse is clicked anywhere outside of a control.

Apparently the mouseDown and mouseUp messages are not sent when the pointer tool is active unless the user clicks with button 3; the normal button 1 click never sends the message to the card. Unlike SuperCard, we have no pointerDown or pointerUp message which would make this a snap.

I've tried placing a graphic object at the back of my group to trap messages like that, but if I leave it with the cantSelect off it's selectable, and if I turn on the cantSelect then dragging on it gives the browse tool behavior rather than the pointer tool behavior of the selection marquee. Suppporting the normal behavior of marquee selection is important and I don't want to sacrifice it just to work around the lack of mouseDown or mouseUp.

Any other suggestions for identifying when the user clicks outside of any control on a card while the pointer tool is active?

Is there any way of using a "dummy object" (perhaps off screen) that you select by script when you set the appearance of the non- selectable objects. Then when you click off the control, you could trap for a selectedObjectChanged message as the "dummy object" is unselected. (I haven't thought this through at all. No doubt it's full of holes.)

Cheers
Dave

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