I have no problem using whatever standards we agree upon. I am not sure I possess the html skills to do that - but whatever, I can learn.
I chose that particular wiki site because it appears to be unlimited and free (which always makes me nervous). It is a site that allows for easy editing of each page, and easy creation of new pages. I am not committed to using that particular site, I just wanted to get a sense of how much work would be involved. It would be a decent amount of work, but nothing insurmountable. I can take a few minutes during lunch today to see if the files on that site would be portable to another site if need be. So far, I have only put in a small part of the dictionary (about halfway through the Cs), and that is without any internal links. I really believe that getting people to use it would not be too difficult. It would become a natural process - one that extends from discussions on this list. Think about the process of finding bugs - first we discuss them on here, then when a bug is fully identified one of us puts it on bugzilla. This would be the same - first we discuss how to use a given command (which happens constantly on this list) then one of us adds the explanation to the appropriate wiki page. I think the others on the list will use it when they realize it is easy, and that it saves them time. It saves them time because in the future they can refer to a specific page on the wiki site for a given explanation, rather than constantly re-explaining the issue each time it is raised anew on this list. If I keep going with that or a similar site, I would envision three steps: 1) put in the dictionary and how-to docs 2) go back and add internal links 3) look through the archives of this list and add in any explanations that seem appropriate for each command After that, we can add in other sections, like for links to the various rev pages, or whatever else we want. Take care, Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marielle Lange Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:56 PM To: use Revolution How to Subject: RE: docWikis Jonathan, Congrats for your website. Nice addition to the family. Feel free to step on my toes... you are welcome to dance on them if you fancy :-). You insisted that you did it to check out how difficult it would be. Point taken. But the point made by Tim is an important one. You will have user contribution when you successfully persuade them that the work they put into this will not be wasted. In fact, I didn't make any attempt to upload the doc on my own wiki because I was aware that structure had to precede content. I didn't take too much time transferring the many notes and snippets I have on my computer onto the wiki for this very reason too. Your document is completely unstructured (I understand this is the source of the doc itself): <P>altID</B> property</FONT><FONT size=3> (any object)</FONT></ P><FONT color=#606060 size=2> <P>Platform support: </P></FONT><FONT size=1> <P>Introduced in version 1.0</P></FONT> <P>Specifies an alternate ID for objects.</P><B><FONT face="Courier New" size=1> <P>set the altID of <I>object</I> to <I>IDNumber</P></B></I></ FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=1> <P>put the altID of this card into myID</P> <P>repeat while the altID of stack myStack <> 0</P></FONT><FONT color=#606060 size=2> <P>See also: </FONT><FONT size=3>ID property </FONT></P><B><FONT color=#606060 size=2> Can you control the css behind your wiki pages? This suggests you do: <LINK REL="stylesheet" TYPE="text/css" HREF="/otherpages/ red_and_gray_full_screen/wiki.css"> <LINK REL="stylesheet" TYPE="text/css" media="print" HREF="http://www.seedwiki.com/otherpages/seedwiki/wiki_print.css";> But can you add new tags within your wiki page that match css divisions? This is what I wanted to do in my wiki before trying to get more persons contribute. With divisions and conventions, the material can be very easily exchanged. So what about the idea of standards... Only got two respondents so far and one is myself. Would users of this list conform to standards if I have the initiative to design some? If you want to get a poor soul (me) spend a few days on this, you should consider taking 1 minute to answer the very short survey at: http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/tiki-take_survey.php?surveyId=1 By experience, I know that many persons like to answer... do the job, spend much much time on it... then when you have finished, if I am satisfied with the work you have done, I may end up using it.... Comments, feedback? No, too early. I will wait for you to present me with a finished product and then I may give you some feedback if I find the time for it. So many great things haven't been realized because of this attitude ;-). If you believe we should go for a reliable revdoc system... one that can easily be moved from one place to another without too much cost if we discover that the first environment we try has intrinsic limits or if we want to take advantage of unexpected changes in technology... help make it happen. At the very minimum, indicate whether you will be really to adopt the standards if they are put in place. I am ready to spend my energy designing good standards. I am not much ready to spend a lot of it harassing members of this list to start using them. The spider guy moto is that with great power comes great responsibilities.... I believe the opposite is also true: with responsibilities come power. We can wait for revolution to present us with a frequently updated documentation system (which honestly, will never happen), or we can have it done ourselves, thanks to the addition of small contributions from all members. But for this, we need a momemtum. One or two activists will not be enough to make it work. Marielle ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Marielle Lange (PhD), Psycholinguist Alternative emails: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage http://homepages.lexicall.org/mlange/ Easy access to lexical databases http://lexicall.org Supporting Education Technologists http:// revolution.lexicall.org _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list [email protected] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list [email protected] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
