Hi Dan,

You of course know, I'm with Richard and Andre on this. Perhaps even further left of them. My experience with Application Service Providers tell me it's very difficult to persuade the enterprise to take advantage of such technologies, especially from outside the firewall. And if Enterprise doesn't adopt the technology, then I don't give it much of a chance.

Frankly, I still think AJAX is the flavor of the month in California, where flavors of the month are mostly born. I believe this for many of the reasons already stated.

But,here's another reason:

18 months ago I spent some time with the CTO of Quest communications in Dallas. I was surprised to see his computer running WinNT when both Win 2000 and Win XP were available. His comment was something along the lines of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it.' He understands, it is important to keep up to date, but he mentioned being responsible for something like 2000 computers. Factoring in costs like downtime, retraining, and licensing fees brought him to the decision that the gains just weren't worth the effort. I think many CTO's are now more budget-minded and I'm sure BOD's are wary of out-of-control technology budgets, especially when it's obvious the productivity gains just are not showing themselves.

Speaking of productivity, I'm not so sure, deep mask interfaces with glowing pulsing buttons and expose like task management really helps users 'get more done'.

You and I and most everyone on this list know of good...no GREAT software we have used in the past, which is no longer available..but our fonts are now anti-aliased!

Programs like Claris Impact, Claris CAD, MORE, the old versions of Flash which were easy to script, MacWrite, MacPaint and MacDraw. Some of these STILL have no equal (imo, mostly thanks to the illegal efforts of MS). That's where one finds productivity gains, in the software and what it can do, not in whether it runs in a browser or on the desktop.

Good discussion,

best,

Chipp

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