OK, good points all around.
I have dampened -- but only slightly -- my original thought that
triggered this thread. I lost sight momentarily of the fact that
there's never only one solution to all problems. Some categories or
types of applications will not lend themselves to AJAX/RIA
deployment, at least not immediately.
But I don't think this negates the fundamental truth of my core
position here: this kind of app, perhaps with additional
infrastructure improvement, is the wave of the future. Rev developers
and RunRev itself need to be positioned to play an appropriate role
in this new universe or get run over.
On Nov 13, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
More real world testimony:
For several years I've been uploading the files for our magazine
Hinduism Today to Banta Publication in Missouri, using their
"Emerge" program which is this giant JAVA applet that runs inside a
browser and interfaces with Creo's amazing InSite prepress system.
It's really a marvel, but horribly slow, and I can tell from
machinations on Banta's side they and Creo have been struggling
with engineering this beast to run inside different browsers with
different levels of JAVA installed. Does it work? yes... but..
guess what.. after three years of this, while sort out some tech
upgrades on Jan 06 upload, my tech support in Electronic Prepress
in Kansas City is on the phone and says to me "Hey right Emerge is
a pain... go to this directory and download Creo's new desktop app,
I know you are not afraid of the bleeding edge and you can test
this for us... not all the functions are there, yet, still in
beta, but you can just drag and drop your files.. and ... etc."
OK, so I open up Creo's new desk top app to interface with the
remote InSite server in Missouri from Hawaii... it's
beautiful...and we all know the Creo's engineers must have
breathed a huge sigh of relief when someone said "OK, ditch the
browser guys, just build something that works" If Banta
Publications (one of US's top five printers) and Creo (recently
purchased by Kodak) do not represent real market forces... I don't
know what real market forces are... and they seem to be going the
other way... yes of course, use the internet, but just the wires...
i.e. it is "our web" not MS's web, or Netscape's web or anybody
elses web. For these people, as Chipp said, productivity is the
most important issue, with nearly 500 publications a year to get
out the door, some of the weeklies, its time to get real, and the
glitter of the web service has finally worn off, get the job
done...just build the tool we really, really need.
Sivakatirswami
On Nov 10, 2005, at 8:15 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
That web apps will become an increasingly important "also" at
Microsoft and everywhere else is a given. But replacing all
apps? Somehow I think not, and I suspect Microsoft's clever
marketing move is as much a distraction as anything else,
consistent with the company's demonstrated character and history....
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