scott,

one thing that has stemmed the tide for me is to start putting your email address on all your web posts as a java encoded text (there are several schemes out there to do this) instead of straight html. while this wont get rid of things immediately, it has slowed the tide a lot for me and many clients over the last couple of years since i started doing it. spam lists are constantly being generated by spiders all the time looking for emails in html, so it does help prevent you getting on new ones. im sure there are some spammers out there that are now using bots to run the java scripts to see if they get any email addresses back, but thats not as easy.

its never ending war... you might also try and forward your email over to a hosting account that has a spam filter on it. I use lunarpages for several clients and their spam filter has been great at catching stuff w/o any nailing any good emails as far as we can tell right now.

DO NOT rely on your ISP for filtering. Two clients just got burned by this big time. One had all the forwarded emails that came from his web domain to his private email at his isp (he wanted it all in one mail box) get bounced by his ISP when the isp changed their spam filter a few weeks ago w/o notice. it now thought that ll the forwarded emails were spams! He is now picking these up directly from the hosting account and the spam filter there is working brilliantly, whereas the isp's never did work well.

The other client used Yahoo as her primary client since she needed to access it from web browsers a lot and she preferred that web client over the hosting companies one. Well a couple of weeks Yahoo changed its spam filters and it started sending all sorts of her ISP (sbcglobal, in bed w/yahoo), yahoo and forwarded domain name emails into the spam. it was very strange what it was thinking was spam and what was not. some lists went in while others only had half of them go to spam. all paypal email went into the spam pile good or bad. It was awful and we didnt figure it out for a week since it was only a partial hit and a bit intermittent and she was very busy and not paying close attention. All this happened with no notification in both cases and really hurt their businesses.

The funniest (well sort of sad), though, was the early days of earthlink spam filtering. i was having some good emails all of a sudden go into the spam pile. i called tech support to see what was up and they said they had just changed the filtering and i should have received a notification about it (which i never received) and to watch to see if there was a problem. Wanna guess where the notification email was? in the spam pile!

oh yes and even clients cgi mailscripts are being hit by bots intermittently filling them up with garbage.

I just want to go downtown and scream at some of the reps here (i live in the dc area) for overriding the state spam laws that were coming on line with a worthless federal law. Virginia was about to institute a law that would have pretty much strung spammers they could get their hands on up by their thumbs! the official line was that the various state laws would be a restraint on interstate trade and hard to enforce! yeah right!

sorry [rant] off, i feel for ya scott, many megabytes of spam are circling my trash bin all the time...

Jeffrey Reynolds


On Nov 27, 2005, at 6:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[sigh] Even with filters and spam blockers and rules, these all address the
symptoms, not the source of the problem. Somebody somewhere needs to do
something about this.

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