On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:50:53 -0800, Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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but still, the point is that verbose syntax helps in my situation. So I'll
continue to support its use.

Earlier, Scott had written

I don't know, Charles.  Being a design-as-a-first-language,
programming-as-a-second-language person, it's *because* of TransScript's
English like syntax that I can get anywhere in the environment.

Just want to say that I come from the opposite end to Scott, since I'm a programmer from further back than you can imagine (probably) and I started off practically programming in binary (really it was octal, but there you go). In those days the programmer had to translate his ideas into a very awkward, obscure and bug-inducing language, and it was a pain. Mistakes were rife, productivity was low, and it just wasn't enough fun. As a result, I have been in favour of every advance towards clarity and 'natural language-like' programming that has occurred since, although I am well aware that "English-like" is not and never will be, English. Anyway X-talk gets my vote every time.

OTOH I entirely agree with those sounding a note of caution about extending X-talk: certainly it should happen, but slowly and with a great deal of consideration of the pros and cons. I believe there are other lists for this kind of discussion.

Graham

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Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France


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