I agree with Rob's points. Without filtering, today's spam-filled email, in general, could never work, split list or not. With filtering and the delete button I don't have to read anything I don't want to. I don't have the energy to go all over the web looking for the appropriate list for this or that. And I often enjoy reading people's insights and opinions about development tools in general terms, not just scripting solutions specific to Rev.

Mark

On Dec 13, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Rob Cozens wrote:

Dear Ken, et al:

I'm not saying that a thread won't or shouldn't evolve (devolve?)
into a philisophical or business acumen-related discussion; it's just that
as soon as we notice we've gotten off track, we should either take the
discussion offlist, or to another list, or end the thread, so that the
primary purpose of the use-list can remain focused on technical issues
related to using Revolution.

I think splitting the List is a mistake.

No one is forced to read every post on every subject. I have Eudora deliver all my use-rev mail to the trash. I read the threads and/or responders whose opinions I have found worth reading, transfer any messages I want to keep to another mailbox, and when I quit Eudora the rest is gone. I doubt I read half of the posts I received this morning.

You can already see the effects of list-splitting in today's mail: an eConversation among long-time correspondents turns from technical to philosophical, and someone posts "take that to another list."

Imagine, if you will, that we are a team of programmers working together on a long-term project. What kind of synergy develops if every time someone brings something personal or not directly project-related into the conversation, another person responds, "I'm not interested in listening to the rest of you discuss this, so [as Judy so elegently put it] piss off."

People who come to the List only wanting free help with Revolution programming ought to accept desire of those who provide it to discuss other issues among themselves on the same list. If a thread evolves from technical to philosophical or humorous, it's because some members of the List want to continue the discussion in that vein.

The only reasons I see for not letting a thread run its natural course are:

* Collaboration on a long-term project, or ongoing subject (eg: rev_ipc group) * The same two or three people continue to discuss a subject while no one else participates.

I said it to the HyperCard List and I'll say it here:

The best way to end a thread you are not interested in is to delete the messages on the subject unread and get on with your life.

Rob Cozens CCW
Serendipity Software Company

"And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
 Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee."

 from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631)
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