Also, we shouldn't ignore the idea of saving data in a stack, rather than a text document. Not a substack, but a separate, faceless stack, that simply has your data in it's custom props, and mixing binary and text data is then possible, too. The size of an empty stack is about 4 Kb.

This makes it easy to keep whatever structure your data has natively in Rev, and makes it possible, if desired, to simply keep the data there, work with it, and save it whenever necessary. The stack can live wherever you choose, and you could easily store the user's name in it to identify it.

Stacks make excellent 'structured documents', and using them in Rev is obviously much easier and more efficient than working with XML. Of course, you can't use this to exchange data with other apps, but in the worst case, any text data can still be recovered from it with a text editor.

Mark


On 6 Feb 2006, at 22:52, Jim Ault wrote:

Marielle,

What is 'massive' in your definition? 1 Mb, 2 Mb, 20 Mb?
Using

put cr&"<header>"&the seconds & "</header>"&cr & \
theDataBlockToBeWritten & \
after url ("file:/HD/User/Documents/thisAppFolder/dataForMe.txt")

would separate the data by time written.

Of course the URL could be an ftp server, if that would help.

Is the data formatted or tagged?
Is the data sentences/paragraphs, or short lines/phrases?
Are you reading and writing to disk, or just writing?

1. I thought I had read on this list that custom properties were
saved in standalone format
The custom properties are saved in the RAM version of the standalone, but are not written to disk. Data could be stored in custom properties and written/sent/memorized before quitting the app. A single write operation is
actually quite fast.  Filtering is very fast.

Hope this helps.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas



On 2/6/06 1:54 PM, "Marielle Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


1. I thought I had read on this list that custom properties were
saved in standalone format that there was no need to create a splash
screen to handle this. What did I get wrong?

If you need to save data changes then you need
separate substacks; or create a splashscreen and use your mainstack as
a separate substack of it.

But with multiple users, the data of one user gets overwritten by the
data of another one, no? Sarah's trick of storing the data within the
package content or some directory presents the same problem if I
understand correctly, doesn't it? Overwriting the data of one user
with the ones of another will be a real problem. I am not storing
preferences, I am storing actual data.

I tried to talk some experienced (non revolution) programmer about
the file in the package solution. I was told to keep away from that.

Using pathToUsersDocumentsFolder would therefore be a better
approach, but I don't really want to create a file within this folder
as the file is in a completely adhoc format that would puzzle anybody
who come across it.

Eric's solution is the best one, but I have a long list of data to
save. I did consider it. The problem is that it's is not really
appropriate to store that amount of data in a preferences file. They
are not preferences, they are data.

Has anybody ever tried the     User/Library/Application Support
way? Is there any problem associated with this solution? What's the
equivalent on a PC? I am not after a quick fix but after a "clean"
way to do this (compliant with developer's recommendations). I can
find this info for a mac, but I know little about PCs.

Thanks for your help,
Marielle



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