Re your Linux stuff
The Linux syntax to mount any media whether in fstab or not is
mount devicename mountpoint
see the man page for option flags
to mount a floppy at /media/floppy one could write
in Linux shell code
#Make sure mount point exists
mkdir /media /media/floppy
#may have to give it read/write permission
chmod +rw /media/floppy
#mount the media
mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
and to check it got mounted
mount | grep floppy
Of course the mount point doesn't have to be where fstab says it is,
it could be any where you can set read/write permissions
like $HOME/media/floppy.
Better to check it is mounted first because many of the newer
versions of Linux automount the floppy and other removable media
like windows does. A bit of a security hole, but like all things
Windoze, "Ease of Use" is more important than system security.
This also means that you don't have to "umount /media/floppy" to
unmount it as this happens automagically as well.
Re your keys problem, your Linux window manager may have set this
key to something else. RunRev does work better in GNOME which is GTK
based, but KDE is also popular as many Windows indoctrinated users
like it.
Then like all things Linux there is the choice of all the rest of
the window managers. Its a bit like a deaf blind person having lots
of wives or husbands. You are never quite sure what to say until
they bite your ear. But I like it.
Kind regards
Stomfi
Bob Warren wrote:
Dear Mark,
I have asked the following simple Linux question on-List, but I have not
received any kind of answer. It suddenly occurs to me that you might be
the most qualified person to give me the answer I am seeking.
As you may have seen recently, I have produced a pair of standalone
file/picture chooser widgets for Windows (see
http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/stacks.htm). I am now working on the Linux
version. The trouble is that I do not have extra computers available to
install versions of Linux other than the one I am using (Ubuntu Hoary
Hedgehog: the floppy doesn't work at all in Breezy Badger!), so I am not
in a position where I can easily discover things for myself.
In Ubuntu (Debian based, Gnome), I am using routines such as the
following to mount/read CDs and diskettes:
on mouseUp
get shell("mount /media/floppy0") --or "/media/floppy"
set the defaultFolder to "/media/floppy0" --or "/media/floppy"
put the files into field "List1"
end mouseUp
on mouseUp
get shell("mount /media/cdrom0") --or "/media/cdrom"
set the defaultFolder to "/media/cdrom0" --or "/media/cdrom"
put the files into field "List1"
end mouseUp
In Ubuntu, I am checking the existence of the CD and diskette drives
using fstab in the folder "/etc", which of course also specifies the
mount points:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro
0 1
/dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
Can you give me some general advice as to how I should check/mount/read
the diskette and CD in other versions of Linux? Are main differences
between Gnome and KDE interfaces, or is it more profound than that? Will
/etc/fstab always give me the info I need, or might I need to look
elsewhere? (Sorry, part of the problem is my lack of experience with
Linux anyway.) A nice feature for the future in RR would be the ability
to quickly identify more specifically the exact Linux platform in use
insofar as it significantly affects programming options such as the ones
outlined here.
As for producing a Mac version of the widgets, that's where I am really
stuck. I don't know anything about the Mac file system at all. Here in
Brazil, Macs are impossibly expensive (even the Mac Mini which is almost
3 times the price in the US). However, I imagine that when the Linux
version is ready (hopefully within a week or so), it would be easier to
convert this version to Mac than to convert it from the Windows version.
How would you go about getting the widgets converted to Mac? Or would
you just forget it?
This was meant to be a quick e-mail, but I cannot fail to mention an RR
Linux bug that is bugging me, in the hope that it also does not appear
in 2.7. If I am editing a script with the toolbar showing, and I use
CTRL+S to save rather than closing the editing window and then saving,
the IDE goes nuts. It seems to get stuck in a loop where first the
toolbar is brought to the front, and then the editor is brought to the
front. Fortunately, the problem can usually be solved by closing the
editing window either before or after saving, but the constant use of
CTRL+S without closing the editing window is so useful that I would
indeed like to see this fixed in 2.7. (Could this possibly be a timing
problem? I should add that I am using a very old and slow Pentium II
with a small memory.)
Best regards,
Bob
P.S.
Please note that I have also posted this e-mail to the Use-Revolution
List. Its content is of potential interest to other RR Linux users. But
I would be grateful for any kind of answer, either on-List or off-List.
Thanks. If you decide to give me an answer off-List, I can still pass on
any useful info to other RR Linux users myself.
P.P.S.
All of this does, of course, point to the importance of extending the
Help info with more Linux-specific information, especially in relation
to "bread and butter" (or in Brazil "black beans and rice") issues such
as the ones I have raised.
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