On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:24 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:

Garrett,

From the brief readings of your few previous posts, it's apparent while you have very little history with our list and community, you are certainly quick to join in the fray.

Both Judy and Dan are respected list members, who both have contributed over a long time to this list, worthy help, opinions and value. As such, your recent flame towards Dan was both mean- spirited and certainly not necessary. Perhaps my opinion of you will change when you have helped this community 1/100 of what Dan has contributed.

-Chipp

Ahh, the "Good Ol' Boy" system, and since I'm the new kid on the block, it's not my place to voice my opinion on something that came through this list. But since Judy and Dan are part of the "Good Ol' Boy" system, it's ok for them to voice their opinion, even have a flame.

I would not care if he was the king of some country, how he talked to Judy and anyone who did not share is view, was wrong, regardless of his standings in the "Good Ol' Boy" system. It's not right.

For that fact, there's a whole lot of OT BS on this list by those who feel they have the right use this list as their personal forum. I guess one needs to be in the "Good Ol' Boy" system to do this.

The list title is "How to use Revolution", not "Dan's personal podium". That, and if you're going to express something on a forum like this, I do believe that any user of the list has the right to respond, regardless of status quo among the squatters claiming territorial rights.

Since I joined this list, I have seen so much OT BS going on that it's even started to get on my nerves, and I should not have to unsubscribe so that those involved can continue to use this list a personal playground. I very much appreciate the help I've been getting, but the rest of it needs to go. It's almost as bad as spam!

In a 24 hour period, there were approximately 41 OT emails through this list, and approximately 28 questions/answers, of which many of those went OT after the questions were answered.

And within the last week, I've seen two questions go completely unanswered. But there are 60+ emails regarding "Transcript and Dot Notation"!!! There are 29 emails regarding "On the Democratic Operation of Bugzilla". So does that seem right to you or anyone else? Is it right that people are allowed to flex and stroke their ego's here and some people slip through the cracks who needed help?

Had not all these OT threads about 'zilla this and zilla that, I would not be getting upset and getting involved in these things. And I'm not flaming Dan yet, just voicing my opinion of how I see his actions. My real view of him thus far is that he's a pompous ass. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, only what he thinks will ever be correct or viable.

Rev should setup a forum instead of a mailing list. You can setup a Misc section on the forum for this kind of stuff, sections for various levels of user experience, dedicated sections for specific aspects of using Rev, etc.

So in the end, as long as there are going to be OT opinions, expect that anyone will reply to them, and it doesn't have to be someone from the "Good Ol' Boy" system that replies, it can be anyone who feels they have an opinion regarding the topic. You know, a little OT banter is ok now and then, but when the OT stuff begins to cloud the purpose of it, then there's something wrong.

When I realized I was getting too deep into an OT topic recently, I asked that anyone who wanted to continue it with me personally to email me directly, and I've since removed myself from that topic because it does not belong on the list. I'll do the same again here. Anyone wants to continue this topic with me, feel free to email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trust me, I have a whole lot more that I would, could, should say on this, but this isn't the place for it.

And anyone else who's got the need to talk about this topic, or of my involvement in it, take it to personal emails instead of on this list.

-Garrett
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